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Son of Nomad

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About?
« Reply #15 on: May 18, 2016, 12:34 PM »
I've already had Cameron's 'better stay in or else' leaflet but nothing at all from the 'leave' campaigners yet I thought they were going to be funded for their own leaflet. Perhaps it's still at the printers.

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About?
« Reply #16 on: May 27, 2016, 10:27 AM »
I see that the Government's immigration target has been exceeded by many thousands in 2015. How can a target be set when they have zero control over numbers coming in.

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About?
« Reply #17 on: May 27, 2016, 07:10 PM »
I think some of us on the forum are old enough to make up our own minds we have seen what its like in, and out. 

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About?
« Reply #18 on: May 29, 2016, 05:57 AM »
The daily scare tactics of both the " leave" and the " remain " camps are tiresome and tedious. This is a momentous decision for the country, yet I feel we are at the mercy of political posturing and manoeuvring. The Prime Minister is to blame for coming up with the idea of a referendum to appease his euro-sceptic back benchers and to keep UKIP at bay. AS far as I am concerned the much- maligned EU is a group of democratic countries trying to work alongside each other. OK the European Union is far from perfect but 100 years ago we were at war, the present situation has got to be better!
Like it or not, we are now part of a global community and we cannot pull up the drawbridge and withdraw to some mythical place of the past where all was sweetness and light. One of my children lives and works in Spain and is very worried at the prospect of the U.K. leaving the EU. I believe we can make the world a better place with more co-operation across national boundaries, not less.
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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About?
« Reply #19 on: May 29, 2016, 10:54 AM »
Hi Meg this debate will go on for years. I never wanted to go in to the EU I have made my own mind up what I will vote It will be to come out I also voted to stay as a single currency which after all the back biting about that was the best thing we ever did. The debate about coming out as been going on for quite a few years now as I was signed up to a campaign about 6 years ago which was supported by different parties who wanted out. The one thing I do like is that we can have a vote and say Yes or No what ever the outcome.  Fudge

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About?
« Reply #20 on: May 31, 2016, 02:28 PM »
Megs  " the present situation has got to be better!"
With the Three unelected Kings in Brussels, I doubt it.
Greece being a fine ex.

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About?
« Reply #21 on: May 31, 2016, 05:38 PM »
Jay wit, I was referring to the fact that we were at war 100 years ago with countries we now trade with. So I repeat " the present situation has to be better!
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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About?
« Reply #22 on: May 31, 2016, 05:48 PM »
Just received the " if we vote leave and take back control" which is full of lies. Must think we are stupid.
1. We will be in control of our own borders.....judging by the queues at passport control last week, we already are!
2. We can make our own laws......what is the Queen's speech for every year? Doesn't she outline the laws that our government plans to pass?
3. "The EU already costs us 350miliin per week ...enough to build a new hospital every week."
Back in April the head of the U.K. Statistics Authority censured this statement as " potentially misleading". More recently he took the most unusual step of reprimanding the " Vote Leave" campaign for continuing to use this false statistic. They even have it emblazoned on their campaign bus!

THis referendum could be very damaging for this country. I urge you to vote but think very carefully before you do so!   Off the soapbox now ...the glass of French wine beckons 😀😀
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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About?
« Reply #23 on: June 09, 2016, 11:38 AM »
hi its not just cameron that wants to remain in the eu its  most of the conservative party and labour party and liberal democrats  and those that want out are muck raking or to line there own pockets , i think they should stand up and be honest because it will be the biggest decision that all the 18 plus will ever make and there will be no going back  as the time gets nearer i am leaning more towards staying in  the eu             

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About?
« Reply #24 on: June 09, 2016, 01:50 PM »
whatever the Establishment tells them to do is opposite to what they will."or should"
Confucius ???

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About?
« Reply #25 on: June 10, 2016, 10:28 AM »
Nicola Sturgeon said we were better united how dare she say that when she wants to split England and Scotland We might as well lay down if it is a stay vote I don't believe half of what we are being told both sides are lying I am going with my gut feelings we would be better of out and run our own country Fudge

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About?
« Reply #26 on: June 14, 2016, 11:57 AM »
hi i would like these few questions answered before i make my mind and why  first state pensions then interest rates , inflation , the nhs human rights , equal rights , and the last immigration and border controle , and how would in or out would effect them ????? by staying in to protect us and fight for better conditions , or pulling out and have no say how the effect on us would be ???

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About?
« Reply #27 on: June 14, 2016, 01:55 PM »
We would have a say through NATO and look at the countries who are not members they are doing alright Greece Spain and Portugal are not doing well and we have had to bail out Greece twice they are still in a bad way I believe we can make a go of running our own country once more. You are not telling me the Prime Minister by letting us have a vote did not realize it could go both ways. Fudge

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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About?
« Reply #28 on: June 14, 2016, 10:47 PM »
Wot me mum wants to know is ... If we leave Europe can she still use her continental quilt ??.



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Re: In, Out, Shake It All About?
« Reply #29 on: June 15, 2016, 10:44 AM »
hi what makes me laugh is how many people visit europe for there holidays , would that stop if we came out of europe  :)