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Urgent -NHS Bill going through parliament
« on: June 29, 2011, 12:22 PM »
The government is trying to put through changes so that the State no longer has a duty to “provide or secure comprehensive health services in England” and that it only has to “promote” them. It looks like much of this may be decided tomorrow, 30 June.  Write to your MP today"!! Please!
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Re: Urgent -NHS Bill going through parliament
« Reply #1 on: November 03, 2011, 07:51 PM »
Dear Meg,

Good news. Yesterday we moved a step closer to stopping one of the worst bits of Andrew Lansley's NHS plan. It looks like we are on track to stop the health minister being able to wash his hands of legal responsibility for our health service.

The Guardian reports today that the government had to make concessions in the House of Lords, "in order to stave off an embarrassing rebellion from Lib Dem peers". There will now be further negotiations. The final vote on this issue will be in January at the earliest. It is "unlikely that the Lib Dem rebels will back down". [1]

It's not over yet. Nowhere near. We will need to get our independent legal experts to look very carefully at whatever the government does next. But this is a breakthrough. And a great sign of hope that people power can influence the House of Lords.

We voted together to make it a priority to stop Andrew Lansley scrapping his "duty to provide" health services. And we worked together to decide on the tactics we use to stop this happening. Slowly but surely our people powered campaign to protect the NHS is working.

38 Degrees members paid together for the independent legal advice which first set out the risks of scrapping the Secretary of State's duties. Thousands of us signed the emergency petition last month. And thousands more of us emailed Lords and Baronesses in the past two weeks.

We have taken some nasty abuse from politicians for our efforts. Andrew Lansley stood up in Parliament to accuse us of producing "propaganda". [2] A number of Conservative MPs contacted 38 Degrees members in their area to say we were liars. One Lib Dem Lord branded us all a "mob". [3] But now the government has finally been forced to admit that we have a point.

This is a small breakthrough on a huge issue. There is so much more to do to protect our NHS. Over the next few weeks the NHS plan will continue through "committee stage" in the House of Lords. We will need to push for other improvements like scrapping the "hands off clause" and reining in competition.

Then we'll have even bigger decisions to make. As the Lords gear up for final votes in early 2012, we will need to vote again on what we do together next. Should we push for further changes to Lansley's plan? Should we decide that it's still so far beyond improving that we have to make a last ditch attempt to stop it altogether? And if Lansley's plans do go through, what can we do together next to prevent the worst effects?

So, lots more to do together soon to protect our NHS – but a glimmer of hope today. Let's keep working together!


Thanks for being involved,

David, Hannah, Johnny, Becky, Marie, Cian and the 38 Degrees team
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Re: Urgent -NHS Bill going through parliament
« Reply #2 on: November 03, 2011, 11:16 PM »
Congratulations to 38 Degrees for persuading the House of Lords the the Minister is still utlimately responsible for the NHS and can't pass the buck to individual consortia should there be complaints.
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Re: Urgent -NHS Bill going through parliament
« Reply #3 on: November 19, 2011, 12:08 PM »
Here we go another waste of money. Tell me, who knows about sickness and their patients more, I always thought it was your GP

http://www.metro.co.uk/news/882227-long-term-sick-notes-should-be-given-by-assessors-not-gps-review-says

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Re: Urgent -NHS Bill going through parliament
« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2012, 01:37 PM »
I see waiting lists have gone from an all time low to double the number of people waiting more than 12 months for treatment. I've just read a story about a woman who was refered to a specialist, her appointment was for 8 months later, she collapsed outside her Dr's and died, the PM showed she had throat cancer. Because of cutbacks A&E departments can't keep the maximum waiting times to 4 hours anymore. Well if people are dying while on waiting lists that will cut the cost of treatment, may be that's the plan. Safe in their hands? not likely.

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Re: Urgent -NHS Bill going through parliament
« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2012, 05:47 PM »
Two thirds of the public say they don't trust the Coalition with safeguarding the NHS.
Then there was the leaked letter from the NHS's deputy chief executive, David Flory, which revealed that 30 acute care trusts failed to meet the required standards on 18-week waiting times last year. In November 2011, 29,508 admitted patients waited longer than 18 weeks for treatment. This is 3,605 more than in November 2010, a rise of 13%, and 8,846 more than in May 2010, a 42% increase.
It's only going to get worse.
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Re: Urgent -NHS Bill going through parliament
« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2012, 07:12 PM »
Just realised my posting should have said waiting lists over 12 weeks not months. Either way its frightening for anyone becoming ill now.

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Re: Urgent -NHS Bill going through parliament
« Reply #7 on: February 13, 2012, 01:28 AM »
The government is trying to put through changes so that the State no longer has a duty to “provide or secure comprehensive health services in England” and that it only has to “promote” them. It looks like much of this may be decided tomorrow, 30 June.  Write to your MP today"!! Please!

Reading comments on the forum and looking at on-line newspaper articles makes me wonder what Nye Bevan abd Sir William Beveridge (the fathers of the NHS) would say if they could see what 60 plus years have done to their glorious dream. Ayess

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Re: Urgent -NHS Bill going through parliament
« Reply #8 on: February 13, 2012, 07:31 PM »
Cameron says they are getting rid of bureaucracy and quangos.  See the following article for before and after organisation charts.  No wonder no-one understands Andrew Lansley's reforms:

http://blogs.ft.com/westminster/2011/08/organograms-show-nhs-becoming-even-more-complex/#axzz1mHtXybYX
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Re: Urgent -NHS Bill going through parliament
« Reply #9 on: February 14, 2012, 01:19 AM »
Hi
       Hmmm Where's Guy Fawkes when you need him    herby

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Re: Urgent -NHS Bill going through parliament
« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2012, 02:23 AM »
re nhs, the pay structure is all wrong, consultants charging £3,000 a clinic and trainee physios on £18 an hour

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Re: Urgent -NHS Bill going through parliament
« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2012, 10:30 AM »
More Chief than Indians Fudge

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Re: Urgent -NHS Bill going through parliament
« Reply #13 on: March 12, 2012, 12:08 PM »
hi i was watching the lib dems confererence , hearing nick clegg speak he sound just like cameron hes even dyed his hair the same colour  :)