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Title: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on May 26, 2009, 06:54 PM
Hi went round ashton this morning work as started on the bedroom the [ pit and nelson ] they are turning it into flats there are four pubs along that stretch of old street  that are closed , the chambers [ up nick ] and camel [the highland laddie ] and the sports bar [ the old dog ] stamford  street the only pub that still there is the feathers all the rest have gone i bet you could not get drunk now having half in every pub on old street and stamford street ,  ;D not enough for a pub crawl ;D
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Post by: Fudge on May 26, 2009, 08:24 PM
It looks like the (Blob Shop) The Wine Lodge is being made in to Flats or Offices also. Fudge
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Post by: Vanessa on May 26, 2009, 08:49 PM
A pub crawl always started in the Wine Lodge, it was like going back in time, with spittoons, hard benches, and the Sally Army coming selling their paper. Oldham Council are thinking about starting queuing at the bar to cut down on binge drinking, its nothing new, that's what you did in Yates's. Pub's used to be a place where you met your friends had a few drinks, a laugh and listen to a bit of entertainment if they had it. Now its all down to trying to get drunk as fast as possible, have a punch up then throw up in the street or your mates lap, after you've emptied your stomach its off for a curry and another round of drinks. The next day you can't remember where you've been or what you have done, what a great time  ???

Vanessa
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Post by: Vanessa on May 26, 2009, 10:33 PM
I don't think I would like to buy a flat in the old Pit and Nelson, it's well known for being haunted.  :o

Vanessa
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Post by: GayJ on May 26, 2009, 11:08 PM
Hello Greeny,

Everyone who used to go to the pubs which closed in Ashton are now fighting it out in Stalybridge on Friday and Saturday nights - still more bars opening in Stalybridge - the latest is a tapas bar on Market Street.

Taxi drivers tell me that all the young idiots who used to hang out in Ashton are now coming to Stalybridge.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on May 27, 2009, 06:05 PM
hi i remember the shepherds and the brittannia bill and many more that are no longer there or have been changed into somthing else , so stalybridge is where all the ashton drinkers go at weekend , and yes venessa i would not like a flat in the pit and nelson i believe the ghost still haunts the place to this day i think it as a linked  to market street which was name dungeons street one time ,and there are still bricked up walls in the cellers of the pit and nelson where the passageways were :)
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Post by: jan on May 28, 2009, 09:08 AM
It's so long since I visited Ashton I'm not sure if the pub I'm thinking of is the Feathers.  Back in the  early 70s when I worked in the centre of Ashton in the Stalybridge tax office (confusing I know!) we occasionally had to work overtime.  One evening we worked until 8:30 and a couple of us went to the pub for a quiet drink.  It was lovely in there - tiled floors, roaring fire and comfy wooden armchairs.  There was a large dog in front of the fire and the pub cat came to sit on my knee to be fussed.  A few years later I went back and it was totally changed - all fluorescent lights and loud music.  I was really disappointed.
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Post by: Fudge on May 28, 2009, 09:17 AM
No thats was not the feathers. It as changed a bit the barrels you use to sit round have gone and it as only a few seats at night. But when the do food at dinner the tables are all set out never knew a fire in there as I think it would have been to dangerous the amount of people who use to squash in there .Fudge
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Post by: jan on May 28, 2009, 11:21 AM
Thanks Fudge - wonder which one it was then.  I can picture the outside of it and where it was but I probably couldn't describe the exact location.  (Unfortunately, I don't have a good memory like most people here  :()
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Post by: greeny on May 28, 2009, 07:40 PM
hi jan it might have been the black vaults the stamford  it use to be on stamford street a bit further up opposite the feathers  :D
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Post by: jan on May 29, 2009, 09:07 AM
Actually, I managed to find a picture of the Feathers online (http://www.pubsgalore.co.uk/pubs/17039/ )and it was the one I remembered (maybe I was mistaken about the fire).  Whilst I was looking for it I discovered names of a lot of the current pubs in Ashton and it looks as if there's either some new ones or the names have been changed.  Recognised a few though :-)
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Post by: greeny on June 03, 2009, 08:15 PM
hi looking at the picture of the feathers it is not on stamford street it old square ,it one pub in ashton that not changed its name, and as kept its originality great pub happy memories  ;)
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Post by: Fudge on June 04, 2009, 07:13 AM
Te Globe is now the Witchwood but I believe they still have a great night there and groups still take part there Fudge
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Post by: greeny on June 04, 2009, 07:40 PM
hi the globe it was a great pub still is ,they have always had live music there ,use to go in there in the mid 60s when it was oldham brewery ,did any one use to go in the queens on george street in the 60s that use to be a rough pub , when you think about it there use to be quite a few punch ups round ashton in  the 60s but the pubs were vibrant .whats happened to them now  :D
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Post by: lydia on June 04, 2009, 10:10 PM
we go to the wichwood when we can to see groups but not too recently. Last time was ages ago and was wild turkey. Before that it was man, groundhogs wishbone ash and our friends group landing party. we used to go to spread eagle to watch groups now long gone and commercial and talbot, stalybridge. used to be a seriel concert goer and loved festivals.
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Post by: greeny on June 05, 2009, 07:35 PM
hi bill a lot of the local breweries have bit the dust, chesters , threlfalls , bents and gartsides , boddingtons , wilsons , i think i only went in the white bear a couple of times bill ,was that a boddingtons house  ob ? the old ashton hotel was a good meeting pub and one for starting in ,do you remember the star inn at the rear of the old reporter office ,they use to be some characters in there ,along with the nags head .i wonder how many of those pubs that are not there now , i bet there are twice as many that are not there then them that are,do you remember the one across the road from the metro cinema i never went in there for a drink i was to young it was also a hotel was it the grapes ? it was supposed to be haunted , also whats happened to all the working mens clubs , they were great for families when i was a kid saturday night in the trades club then a bag of chips from heywoods chippy on katherine s treet then home all sharing the one bag of chips  :D
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Post by: Bardsleycrow on June 06, 2009, 09:53 AM
How about The Prince of Wales on Stamford St.There was a womn murdered there in the late forties.
Kevin
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Post by: Fudge on June 06, 2009, 10:21 AM
Nick Named the Stranglers Arms after. Fudge
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Post by: greeny on June 06, 2009, 11:03 AM
hi  the prince of wales the murderer that got hung did the hangman use to go in the prince of wales? the theatre and concert was the landlord a hypnosit one time, thinking back the landlords of these pubs round ashton stayed landlords for years not changing every few months like they do now , here are a few more gone but not forgot brunswick on katherine street ,the carriers  arms on oldham road .the church inn and the castle on scotland street i also believe there was a bluebell on scotland street yes bill the one on old street was the commercial hotel ,can you remember the one near where asda roundabout ,was it the cavenish?
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Post by: kennyo on June 06, 2009, 08:47 PM
there used to be the envil club in the forties was it near the fire station as that all gone now kennyo cheers
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Post by: Fudge on June 06, 2009, 10:05 PM
The Old Fire Station is now a Pub called the Fire Station. The Enville Club I knew was on Katherine St. And then it was pulled down and a new one built on Oldham Rd but it as now changed its name . Also to Greeny yes Pierpoint the Hang man drank in the Prince of Wales Fudge
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Post by: Jayess on June 06, 2009, 11:54 PM
Albert Pierpoints was the Landlord of a pub in Oldham & he used to visit his assistant hangsman (who became the chief hangsman after Pierpoint) at the Halfway House pub on Whiteacre rd. If I recall he did a lot of the hanging of the Germans after the war & he was Harry Allen if I remeber rightly.  Jayess
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Post by: herby on June 07, 2009, 12:23 AM
Hi
          Somebody once told me Albert's pub waas called Help the poor struggler    herby
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Post by: Jayess on June 07, 2009, 02:28 AM
Herby --You are right it was called " Help the poor Struggler"  & behind the Bar was a few ropes on display & I believe another Hangsman managed a pub called "Live & let Live" but I cannot remember where that one was. Jayess
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Post by: Bardsleycrow on June 07, 2009, 04:44 AM
Albert Pierpoint had The Help the poor struggler and the Live and Let Live both The pubs where on Manchester road Hollinwood He retired to Preston.When he got fed up of Hanging around.
Harry Allen was a bus driver for Ashton Corporation I knew is son Brian.
Kevin
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Post by: Fudge on June 07, 2009, 09:18 AM
Yes he did go to hang quite a few in Germany after the war Fudge
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Post by: herby on June 07, 2009, 11:10 AM
Hi
     I used to like the Sunday morning drives that they used to run in a lot of the pubs in Ashton. They used to start around 8-30  and go off into the country, get to the first pub around 1/4 to ten have breakfast usually a big plate of ham and eggs, have a few in there then off to the second pub. Stay there till around1-15 and head back to Ashton for one more in the home pub then back home for dinner   herby.
                                                                                                                     
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Post by: greeny on June 07, 2009, 01:24 PM
hi thanks for that bill  the brougham i was thinking all the names under the sun lol ,going back to the brunswick and the card schools , that was a fasination of a young teenager going in the tap room the card schools were serious buisness the air filled with smoke ,all waiting to get a piece of the action on the next game , thats when the put the jacks out . i went in the new inn a few times it was a all fours house the money changed hands they even had some running a book , i played don and crib some times in the union arms on burlington street , that was a good pub the landlord was called dennis,  there were a lot of asians that went in we all got on well together ,they loved a game of cards but there were a few rows when english was not spoke during a card game lol , there were also a few pubs with snooker tables ,i think the brunswick was one of them ? :D
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Post by: Meg on June 07, 2009, 08:43 PM
Drinks are too expensive. 4.50 for a small glass of wine when I can get a whole bottle for 5 in the supermarket!
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Post by: Jean on June 07, 2009, 08:51 PM
Does anyone remember  The Manor house pub ? It was at the back of the fire station (which is now a car park ) at the bottom of Henrietta street.
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Post by: Martin on June 08, 2009, 01:08 AM
Somebody once told me Albert's pub was called Help the poor struggler
Yes, it was on Manchester Road in Hollinwood.
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Post by: Meg on June 08, 2009, 04:29 PM
Hi Jean
I'm sure it was the Manor House pub that used to be on the corner of Manor St (which was a very short street ran from Wellington Rd ending at the wall along the railway) and Camp Street which ran at the back of the old fire station. I had a drink in there before boarding the bus to Rochdale to start a marathon (26 mile) walk in aid of charity which started at Rochdale Town Hall and was started off at midnight by Cyril Smith, M.P. for Rochdale.
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Post by: greeny on June 08, 2009, 07:48 PM
hi the manor house i it was lively pub tuck away in the centre of ashton i remember the swinging saloon doors  going into the lounge , yes back of the old fire station . at weekend all the pubs did well with a mixture of young and old , what will bring them back? i dont think they will ever be the same again like meg says you can get a bottle of wine at the supermarket cheaper , a couple going out you can spend over 20 on just three drinks each and half the pubs are run down with nothing going on , you cant even get a sing along any more  :D
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Post by: Fudge on June 08, 2009, 08:23 PM
Hi Meg A bottle of Portugise Rose at Sainsburys 2.95 or Home bargains have had a variety of Villas Wine about 5 different Reds and 2 Dry White ones 2.95. Had the Whites and the Rosie not a Red wine person but they were all nice and a lot cheaper than going to the pub. Fudge
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Post by: herby on June 09, 2009, 06:28 AM
Hi
    You can get four litres of  wine white or red in a box  for about 10 dollars here I don't like the stuff much but it's not so bad if you mix it with lemonade    herby       
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Post by: jaywit on June 09, 2009, 12:34 PM
lemonade!!!! try soda water.
Make our own(add water and yeast) to comply with Gov Regs.Bottle after 6 weeks.Australian Shiraz and a Chardonnay are our favorites,costs around $120 for 30 bottles.
Just adds a little touch to the food and conversation!!!!!
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Post by: Nan on June 09, 2009, 02:51 PM
I used to brew all my own wines and my husband  did beer several years ago.  As was mentioned earlier, many supermarkets, and places like Home Bargains and B & M, stock fairly good wines at reasonable prices. In fact some of them are more palateable than the dearer ones, and you don`t have to wait as long to drink it, so we quit doing the homebrew.
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Post by: jan on June 09, 2009, 03:10 PM
I last made wine years ago when someone gave me a huge amount of rhubarb.  I did everything right (I thought) but I just couldn't get it to stop fermenting!  I put the stuff in you're supposed to use and thought it had worked so put it in demijohns with rubber bungs.  When I checked on it the rubber bungs had exploded out.  When I realised it wasn't going to end up in bottles several of us had a wonderful evening drinking it from the demijohn - was really good dry sparkling wine!!!!!
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Post by: greeny on June 09, 2009, 06:55 PM
hi i also use to brew my own beer it tasted good and it had a kick with it ,but its the waiting the bottles and the messing about , not to say the house smelling like a brewery ,  :D
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Post by: Fudge on June 09, 2009, 08:38 PM
When we were children we had a Ginger Beer plant you would feed it for 2 weeks then half it and make Ginger Beer pop delicious. Then continue for another 2 weeks we had that much we got fed up so there was no more made. Fudge
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Post by: Nan on June 10, 2009, 07:10 PM
I remember one Christmas, my husband brewed Barley Wine. We had a party one night over the holiday season, and a lot of the men were drinking it, but instead of a small glass, they were drinking pints. We did warn them how strong it was, but it tasted so good, they ignored us, and by about 10 o`clock they were dropping like flies. My husband never brewed it again after that.
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Post by: Meg on June 10, 2009, 08:06 PM
Fudge you brought back a memory of ginger beer from stone bottles that my grandma kept under the sink. Where did you buy ginger beer plants?  And can you still get them?
My parents in law were teetotal but the Stone's Ginger Wine was brought out at Christmas. I could get quite merry on that- they thought it was a nice warming drink!  :)
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Post by: Fudge on June 10, 2009, 09:03 PM
Hi Meg you use to be able to start your own with Sugar, Yeast and water in a Treacle Jar we used and feed it one day with yeast and one with sugar at the end of the two weeks you would half the contents and  use so much water and I think sugar again put it in pop bottles and put it in a dark place for so many weeks to ferment . That is all I could remember as I was only young when my mum use to make it . Fudge   ps Mr Chips below reminded me about the ginger you had to feed every other day.     
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Post by: Mr Chips on June 10, 2009, 09:13 PM
I made a mistake last year and made some Ginger Beer, I used two 2 litre spring water bottles. After bottling it - The bottles went rock hard with the pressure - I picked one up and the bottle top shot off  and sprayed me - I recoiled and hit the other bottle and that let go and the spume hit the kitchen ceiling. The place took ages to clean.

For others of a less nervous disposition:

BBC Website:

Alcoholic Ginger Beer
 
There are two ways of making ginger beer. The first consists of shredding ginger root and boiling it up with water and sugar. The second involves making a ginger 'plant' which can be re-used time and time again. This makes a batch once a week. The brewing process that will be discussed in this entry is the latter.

Equipment and Ingredients

Equipment

A jar and lid which is big enough to contain the plant.
One pint-sized measuring jug
Several clean and dry two-litre plastic bottles.
Teaspoons
A large pan
A fine cloth for straining the plant
Ingredients

Dried ginger
Dried yeast
Sugar
Juice of four lemons
Water.


Making the Plant:

The plant is a mixture of dried ginger, yeast, sugar and water. This creates a yeast culture.

In the jar, place one teaspoon of dried yeast, two teaspoons of dried ginger, four teaspoons of sugar and a pint (600ml) of cold water.

Stir and keep at room temperature.

Feed the plant every day with two teaspoons of dried ginger and four teaspoons of sugar. Stir after feeding.

The plant will be ready after one week.


Making the Ginger Beer:

Place 1kg (2lb) of sugar and two pints of boiling water in the large pan. The sugar will dissolve.

Add the juice of the four lemons to the pan.

Strain the contents of the jar - the plant - through the cloth into the pan. See below for what is to be done with the solid portion of the plant.

Add 14 pints of room temperature water.

Stir and bottle. Fill the bottles about seven-eighths full as you need to allow for expansion. Squeeze the air out of the bottles to stop them exploding under pressure from their contents.

Store the bottles in a safe place at room temperature, and leave for three to four weeks to 'brew'.

Discard half of the solid from the plant or give it to someone so they may start their own. Place the remaining half in a clean jar with a pint of water and continue to feed as above.

 
 
 
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Post by: Fudge on June 11, 2009, 08:02 AM
Hi Mr Chips Thank you for reminding me about the Ginger forgot one of the main ingredients Fudge
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Post by: GayJ on June 11, 2009, 11:28 PM
Baby brother started making wine when he was about 13.  His first lot was carrot wine which turned out like lovely white wine.  Then he had a go at damsons.  Sounds a bit like the rhubarb wine experience except that he had put the demijons in my Mum's airing cupboard next to her neatly ironed
sheets and pillowcases.

Next morning the whole lot were covered in purple goo!!
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Post by: greeny on June 14, 2009, 10:54 AM
hi as work stopped on the bedrooms [ the pit and nelson ] or have they been spooked off :D :D
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Post by: kennyo on June 17, 2009, 04:04 AM
was there a pub on old st. called the friendship at one time ??  kennyo
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Post by: herby on June 17, 2009, 10:44 AM
Hi
       Is the Welcome home still there.     herby
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Post by: kennyo on June 17, 2009, 07:04 PM
thanks bill thats the one we used to pop in in the late forties i think we used to get some old tom in winter i also went in the asherton arms we had a football team is it still there i dont remmember where it was though kennyo cheers
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Post by: greeny on June 18, 2009, 11:15 AM
hi bill regarding to your book of words , does it have the nelsons tavern and the royal oak on wellington road and when they closed  ,is it possible to find out when the town hall tavern when it closed that was on katherine street where wilkos entrance is on the market  , thank you   greeny
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Post by: Fudge on June 18, 2009, 01:10 PM
The Asherton Arms is still there but closed on the Corner of Booth street. My Gr gr Granddad was the 1st Land Lord of the Town Hall Tavern Benjamin Greenwood. Fudge
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Post by: greeny on June 18, 2009, 04:16 PM
hi thanks for that bill, the nelsons tavern, part of it went on our bon fire must have been about 48 years ago when they demolished it a mate of mine was logging wood from there on a sunday morning just opposite was st mary church , and father kelly came out he reconised my mate from st marys school and he got such a blasting for not attending church that morning , us being c e thought it was really funny , he was scared stiff of going to school on the monday  :D
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Post by: greeny on June 19, 2009, 10:42 AM
hi bill  three more pubs if you have them in the book of words , dusty miller  turner street year it closed ? another one it was on holden street opposit hust laundry i never knew it as a pub or its name ,it was turned in to flats , and one on old street opposite the drill hall , these three pub i knew by ear say , have you any info on them bill   thanks greeny
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Post by: Meg on June 19, 2009, 02:23 PM
Fudge
My great grandmother Charlotte Belfield who was born in Longnor Staffs was working as a domestic servant at the Town hall Inn in 1891 (source Census)  Landlord was James Booth aged 40 born AUL and his wife Jane also aged 40 born Dukinfield.
Next door at 114 Katherine St. was The Temperance Hotel !!
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Post by: Fudge on June 19, 2009, 03:13 PM
See Meg more connections Fudge
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Post by: greeny on June 20, 2009, 10:19 AM
hi thanks for that bill , it could have been jolly miller i knew of three pubs on hillgate seven stars olive branch , and the hillgate , when i see a mate of mine again i will ask him he lived next to the seven stars, but the more i think of the jolly miller  it it could be somewhere near the location you have given , i fudge was benjamin greenwood the first landlord of the town hall inn ?he moved from one of the pubs off scotland street it could have been one of three ,church inn , the castle , or bluebell ? the pubs that have gone i feel drunk thinking about it  :D  :D  :D  regards greeny
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Post by: Fudge on June 20, 2009, 12:15 PM
Yes Greeny He was the ist Land Lord of the Town  Hall Inn and it was the Church or the Castle Inn before that. He then went back to Thornhill Dewsbury and was Landlord of The Clegford bridge Head Inn Forge Lane Dewsbury were he died on the 23rd Feb 1876. Fudge
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Post by: Nan on June 20, 2009, 01:47 PM
My great grandfather, Robert Howarth,  was landlord of the Robin Hood on Oldham Rd in the 1880`s. Don`t know how long for, but I know my grandfather could remember living there as a child. He told me that his father was completely teetotal inspite of running the pub, but would stand behind the bar all evening with a wine glass full of beer, just taking the odd sip so that his customers could not say he wouldn`t  drink his own beer... Nan
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Post by: Nan on June 20, 2009, 04:11 PM
Hi Bill.  Must be a misprint as it was definitely Howarth with an A. I knew he was there in 1881 from the census but didn`t know the exact dates. Thanks very much.... Nan
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Post by: greeny on June 21, 2009, 11:05 AM
hi thanks for that bill , what amazes me how many on this board ,have there forefathers that were publicans , heres another bill  for your book of words ,was there a pub on whitelands road ,i know the pointsnman , was there another more towards the ashton end ?
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Post by: musky on June 21, 2009, 06:48 PM
I used to go to school with a girl who's parents had a pub on Whitelands Road. I think her surname was Hirst.
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Post by: kennyo on June 22, 2009, 01:10 AM
i remmember the envil club the people that ran it were called flood thats gone now as it ??kennyo
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Post by: greeny on June 22, 2009, 07:06 PM
hi kennyo the enville closed down on katherine street and moved to oldham road it did not last long the building is still there but the enville club as well gone , along with the trades club and the liberal club , and the portland streeet club  :)
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Post by: musky on June 22, 2009, 09:12 PM
Thanks Bill. I wasn't sure of the name of the pub.
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Post by: kennyo on June 22, 2009, 09:42 PM
thanks greeny  for that cheers  kennyo
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Post by: Fudge on June 23, 2009, 09:43 AM
Hi Kennyo The Enville St Pub on Oldham Rd is still a club but it as a different name now can't remember what it is called off hand Fudge
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Post by: Nan on June 23, 2009, 06:37 PM
Isn`t it called the Alexander or Alexandra Club now, or something like that... Nan
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Post by: Fudge on June 23, 2009, 09:07 PM
Yes Nan that is it the Alexander Fudge
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Post by: kennyo on June 24, 2009, 04:03 AM
are the clubs fading away now kennyo ??
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Post by: Fudge on June 24, 2009, 09:03 AM
Yes I think the Irish Club is just about hanging on , And I am not sure about Evan St. The Picture, Pubs and Clubs and lots of Churches are going or gone over the last 10 yrs . But what are people doing to socialise now ???? Fudge
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Post by: greeny on June 24, 2009, 03:00 PM
hi can any one remember the kumfy ckub at hurst cross tuesday night , resident singer and painist brad newman that was a packed night , and a more recent singer johnny rich he played at a few pubs round ashton , had a good load followers , i wonder if hes still going ? why have people stopped going out , i know its cheaper to buy from the supermarkets and drink at home , me and the mrs go out now and again , we tend to have a meal out, or go to the cinema , then a couple of drinks at the local , when you think if they keep closing these pubs and clubs they will just become a memory  :)
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Post by: Nan on June 24, 2009, 06:54 PM
Johnny Rich is still going strong, Greeny. Not sure about Brad Newman though. My husband and I used to always go to see him when he was appearing on the Ashton club scene. That was a real blast from the past when you mentioned him. We were only courting then and we`ve been married over 46 years.Used to go to the Kumfy club a lot in those days. Another favourite was Evans Street band club for dancing in the room upstairs on a Saturday night. Went to a party there some years back, and it still looked exactly the same, right down to the wallpaper. It really needs a complete make-over. I believe you only get one or two people in there now, even on a weekend.
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Post by: Meg on June 25, 2009, 02:01 PM
There must have been so many pubs in Ashton in the 19th/20th century- one on every street corner practically.
My great grandfather Samson Harding was landlord of the Old Ball on Smallshaw Lane until he died, of cirrosis of the liver (!), in 1922. His 3rd wife Mary took over then. I've been told he kept trotting ponies in stables at the back of the pub and kept a parrot on the bar which he trained to swear at the custumers!
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Post by: Nan on June 25, 2009, 07:01 PM
Thanks for putting the clips on about Brad Newman, Bill. There was a lot I didn`t know about his career and I also didn`t know he had died. In those days, my husband and I were both working as singers on the club scene, and I was on the same bill as Brad a couple of times. Ah! good old days ;)..Nan
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Post by: kennyo on June 25, 2009, 09:36 PM
what were the two pubs on mossly road near darton road and queens road was one the miners ?? kennyo
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Post by: Jayess on June 25, 2009, 11:21 PM
Kenno -You are slipping not remembering them  "The New Inn' Corner of Mossely Rd & Princess St"  Opposite Was the The Cottage" & the " Miners Arms " was on the corner of Montague Rd & Mossley Rd where I frequently tried a few pints . Jayess
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Post by: kennyo on June 26, 2009, 03:38 AM
 well i knew there were two pubs in that area allthough i did very little drinking in my youth i was too busy kicking the bag of wind around  for my enjoyment cheers jayess kennyo
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Post by: greeny on June 26, 2009, 11:08 AM
hi thanks for that bard newman  clip bill , you said he plyed at the rycroft , i remember a local lass that sang there  her stage name was annette star , what year was the rycroft shut ? nan you said johnny rich is slill going strong last i herd he was playing at the red house ?,he  does not seem to get the same advertising as he use to , :)
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Post by: Fudge on June 26, 2009, 11:32 AM
You Do see Jonny Rich advertised some times like every one else he is getting older so I bet he does not do as many now Fudge
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Post by: Nan on June 26, 2009, 06:45 PM
Hi Greeny. If you look in the Advertiser you can see Johnny Rich being advertised at some pub or other quite often. He also appears at some charity concerts too, so he is still keeping his hand in ,so to speak. Did you know that he was related to John Kilbride who was one of the victims of the Moors Murderers..Nan
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Post by: greeny on June 28, 2009, 10:37 AM
hi nan yes i knew johnny rich was related to the kilbrides , john went under his real name a time ago johnny doran , i sure he was on oppertunity knocks and he made a record it must have been back in the early 60s ?i bill the odd whim , when it was called the stamford back in the 60s everyone use to call it the odd whim then,it was one of the first few pubs i went in in my teens , we had many a good laugh, you could fix the duke box and get records on all the time for a bob , its now been renovated and turned into flats a interesting building with lots of history  :)
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Post by: greeny on July 03, 2009, 02:48 PM
hi two more pubs to the list bill ,you might need to refer to the book of words the craven heffer date it closed , and the bath and junction  thanks  greeny  :D
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Post by: greeny on July 04, 2009, 10:12 AM
hi thanks for that bill , but i am sure the craven heifer closed before 1989 , i would say the late 70s  ???
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Post by: Old Ashtonian on July 23, 2009, 01:46 AM
I see from our local paper that Pubs are closing in UK at the rate of 50 per week in the first half of this year putting over 24000 people out of work in the past year.
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Post by: Ashtonian54 on July 23, 2009, 03:06 AM
hi thanks for that bill , but i am sure the craven heifer closed before 1989 , i would say the late 70s  ???

Is that the one at the west End of Ashton?
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Post by: greeny on July 23, 2009, 10:48 AM
hi thats the one ashtonian54 craven heifer west end, i think it was on william street just before you got to the trafalgar public house , :)
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Post by: greeny on July 27, 2009, 10:32 AM
hi i passed the albion pub  on penny meadow the other day it had metal shutters which were down , is that another one to bite the dust  ???
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Post by: chrisandangie on July 27, 2009, 11:04 AM
Thats being flatened,part of the regeneration of penny meadow  :'(
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Post by: Ashtonian54 on July 28, 2009, 06:51 AM
link doesn't work Bill
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Post by: jan on July 28, 2009, 08:18 AM
Link was working yesterday but page seems to have been removed now.
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Post by: greeny on July 28, 2009, 12:02 PM
hi does that mean if it goes at the front of the railway station and accross henrietta street and up penny meadow the tontine will go and the ladysmiths [railway]pubs  and the irish club might also bite the dust
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Post by: Ashtonian54 on July 28, 2009, 07:04 PM
hi does that mean if it goes at the front of the railway station and accross henrietta street and up penny meadow the tontine will go and the ladysmiths [railway]pubs  and the irish club might also bite the dust

Or the pub with extended licensing hours on Election Night!
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Post by: Martin on July 30, 2009, 12:48 AM
hi does that mean if it goes at the front of the railway station and accross henrietta street and up penny meadow the tontine will go and the ladysmiths [railway]pubs  and the irish club might also bite the dust

No. Not according to that map, anyway. The only buildings affected are those in the triangle between Albion Street, Penny Meadow and the railway line (including the Albion pub), the mosque (formerly St Mary's school) and probably the carpet warehouse on Wimpole Street that used to be a roller skating place.
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Post by: greeny on July 30, 2009, 06:50 PM
hi so thats where its going martin , its seems an expensive bit of road for the distance it will cover ,will they pedestrianise wellington road from penny meadow to warrington street who knows ? only one pub will bite the dust then  :D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on August 09, 2009, 11:08 AM
hi i have herd a whisper that four pubs in ashton town centre are going to be re vamped to try and bring a sparkle back to ashtons declining night life , two on old street one on george street and one on stamford street have they left it to late ???
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Post by: Fudge on August 10, 2009, 06:48 PM
I see the Half Way House on Whiteacre Road is all boarded up and got signs up Fudge
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Post by: Ashtonian54 on August 11, 2009, 11:41 PM
hi i have herd a whisper that four pubs in ashton town centre are going to be re vamped to try and bring a sparkle back to ashtons declining night life , two on old street one on george street and one on stamford street have they left it to late ???


I don't think so
20 years ago began the resurgance of "Old Pasadena" now a hot spot and weekend destination for young and old alike.

A similar plan for "Old Ashton" can easily become reality with the right planning.
Done right and with easy parking, the place could once again become a destination from far and wide.
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Post by: greeny on August 12, 2009, 02:47 PM
hi the four pubs that i have herd opening are[u c p cafe] molly malones on george street , the [the old dog ]player bar and [ye old vaults or up nick ]chambers on old street and the[black vaults ]the  stamford on stamford street , will they make a differents  :D
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Post by: Fudge on August 12, 2009, 07:00 PM
They spoilt the Old Vaults on Old Street . When they got rid of the Cocktail Bar we always felt grand in that area were they use to put nuts and crisps on the tables for you to nibble Fudge
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Post by: Meg on August 13, 2009, 12:53 PM
I would advise never eating nibbles put out on the bar. Ever reckoned how many people wash their hands after using the toilet.  :(
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Post by: gina44 on August 13, 2009, 07:13 PM
urghh not many i would think.
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Post by: greeny on August 23, 2009, 03:26 PM
hi another pub may have bit the dust the crowthorne ;the doors have been closed all week  ???
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Post by: Ashtonian54 on August 23, 2009, 08:40 PM
hi another pub may have bit the dust the crowthorne ;the doors have been closed all week  ???

 No!


and this too
(http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_AzpqLjRiV3o/SpECa3xDLvI/AAAAAAAABvA/T6VLbgzPnH8/s320/DSC02160-722592.JPG)
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Post by: greeny on August 24, 2009, 10:34 AM
hi whats going on ,whens it going to stop ,what is the answer, ???
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Post by: Nan on August 24, 2009, 02:20 PM
The Seven Stars on Hillgate Street has been closed for some time now too, and I don`t know about the Canterbury on Canterbury Street. Whenever we pass during the day it always seems to be closed, but it isn`t boarded up. Maybe it is just open in the evenings. Not many pubs open in this area now that the Albion and Tontine have gone. The only one that seems to do well is The Napoleon on Botany Lane.
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Post by: lydia on August 24, 2009, 02:27 PM
will let you all know about best pubs as on sept. 6th we goin for curry and then onto some pubs on way back up to hurst. canterbury was on agenda so will see if open then. There will be 6 of us so may make them look a bit busier! Its our 29th wedding anniversary not that we need excuse. Like I said last week we went round hurst and royal oak was very busy for a sunday night.
Title: Seven Stars Magnet Ales
Post by: Ashtonian54 on August 24, 2009, 08:09 PM
(http://www.tameside.gov.uk/images/jpgl/t01790.jpg)
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Post by: jan on August 25, 2009, 09:39 AM
Congrats in advance for the 6th Lydia :-)  Know it's a cliche but wonder where the time's gone!
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Post by: Ashtonian54 on August 25, 2009, 10:16 PM
will let you all know about best pubs as on sept. 6th we goin for curry and then onto some pubs on way back up to hurst. canterbury was on agenda so will see if open then. There will be 6 of us so may make them look a bit busier! Its our 29th wedding anniversary not that we need excuse. Like I said last week we went round hurst and royal oak was very busy for a sunday night.

My wife reminded me that Aug 23 would have been her wedding anniversary to her late husband.
If looks could kill! I looked at her and said "our anniversary is July 11th" got it, I don't go around telling you Jan 19th is my first wedding anniversary"

Happy Anniversary Lydia
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Post by: lydia on August 26, 2009, 08:48 PM
Thanks to you both, Lydia
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Post by: greeny on August 29, 2009, 02:03 PM
hi as any more pubs closed this week or on the brink of closing  ???
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Post by: greeny on September 01, 2009, 06:34 PM
hi i see in scotland thet have stopped the happy hour and cut price booze  :)
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Post by: chrisandangie on September 02, 2009, 12:18 AM
The Canterbury is still open, i have worked there a few times this year. The busiest pub in ashton, you would call a draw between The Bowling green , and The prince of Orange , where I am working today (Wednesday) 5 - 10 !  :D
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Post by: Denise on September 02, 2009, 09:42 AM
Hi Bill - The answer to that is undoubtedly the revenue raised from beer sales - 2,519 billion in the 1st half of 2009. The Beer & Pub Association News website is worth a read.  8)
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Post by: Ciderman on September 03, 2009, 12:54 AM
Well ..........with a name like mine I'm saying nowt   ;D

But there again.........
...............................I've gone past the Bowling Green at half 10 in the morning and had to step over people on the pavement.

And I get told by my doctor that I've got a drink problem because I like a bevvie a couple of times a week !!.

At least I do it a lot later in the day and in the privacy of my own home !!
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Post by: Nan on September 03, 2009, 02:35 PM
Workmen are in at the Hillgate now. Wonder if it is heading for a re-opening???
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Post by: Fudge on September 05, 2009, 04:12 PM
I also like a few glasses of wine in the comfort of my own home. And I also like to go out for a drink. I dont cause any trouble when I am out. And when I worked I never had a day of through drink related illness. In my youth we would go clubbing till two or three in the morning but would always be at work on time. I think they use it because they can't use  anything else now smoking as been banned in Public places and causes ill health they have turned to drink to complain about Fudge
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Post by: trekkie on September 05, 2009, 04:38 PM
went by the crowthorn pub this week been close for a few weeks a to let sign has gone up hope it opens up again soon :-\
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Post by: greeny on September 12, 2009, 11:16 AM
hi i see the swan at cockbrook is closed  i dont know how long thats been closed and  i believe the stop and rest at staly vagas is closed  :)
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Post by: Martin on September 13, 2009, 02:18 PM
The Halfway House on Whiteacre Road looked shut up a few weeks ago but was definitely looking open again when I went past yesterday.
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Post by: jan on September 14, 2009, 08:55 AM
I think Lydia told me the Swan had closed.  A group of us used to go to evening classes at the college and then went in there afterwards.  Had some really fun evenings :-)
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Post by: greeny on September 15, 2009, 10:34 AM
hi another pub time been called the peaks at hazelhurst , i know it turned into a restaurant a few years ago but thats gone now the doors are closed
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Post by: lydia on September 15, 2009, 01:22 PM
yes and the lord nelson aquired all their garden furniture at discounted price
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Post by: Denise on September 16, 2009, 06:22 PM
Shame about the demise of The Peaks in Hazelhurst, had such a prominent position and always so popular with the locals.
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Post by: greeny on September 22, 2009, 11:15 AM
hi we were discussing the other day , pubs that had the most characters, of the past , so far the wine lodge that was on stamford street when you had to queue up and it had wooden floors [ no carpets ]was mentioned the most , and the next was the feathers , and the spread eagle were mentoned , what are your memories of pubs of yeasterday , nearly every pub had its own characters , i remember the prince of orange there use to be a woman that went in there sunday diner streight out of st mary church ,after she had a few drinks she would f and jef with the best of them and to top it she would pea herself at the bar  :D
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Post by: chrisandangie on September 22, 2009, 11:41 AM
That still sounds like The Prince Of Orange every Sunday  :)
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Post by: Jean on September 22, 2009, 02:55 PM
I wonder if thats the same woman who used to catch the last bus home from Ashton to hurst cross every sunday night ,she used to sit at the back and sing Paper Roses at the top of her voice, she usually wore a hat and was always very drunk !!! We were on the bus coming home from the palais, she didnt give a monkeys about anything and seemed to enjoy life to the full me and my mates used to sing along with her and we hadnt had a drop !!!!
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Post by: Fudge on September 23, 2009, 09:36 AM
Some time we go in Feathers about 930pm on a Friday night some times we have been the only ones in  On a good fri about 12 get in. Gone are the days when you had to squeeze through 12 deep to the bar. I think they keep going because of Lunch time food. Fudge
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Post by: jaywit on September 23, 2009, 02:05 PM
A bit of a curve to the subject but relevant.
Used to go in The Globe Wednesday night,get in early to get a seat,they had good groups on in the early 60's.Weekends we'd roam a bit,George and Dragon at Charlesworth,(Ham bunnies and a pickled onion) Old Mill at Rowarth,Peels Arms at Glossop,The Bull at Grains Bar,TheJunction,Mottram(had to order Black Puddings would you believe)Many more pub just for 1 offs.End up in Pegs Lantern after putting the car to bed.I must say it really was a stupid thing to do but as luck would have it,no problems.
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Post by: greeny on September 23, 2009, 08:03 PM
so chrisandangie the prince of orange not changed much ,jean it sounds like the same woman that use to go in the prince of orange she always wore a hat , i think she did live up hurst way, i think she was called mona , another character was in the half way house a bloke use to get up and sing well try to he was called nimrod what singer , and i was in the feathers one night and this bloke got up singing he was called johnny roco ,the name he gave him self,he was awful but the more the crowd egged him on the more he sang bill the landlord had to stop the music to get him off  :D
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Post by: ourjud1 on September 24, 2009, 07:08 PM
Hi
     Does anyone remember Big Vi & Little Elsie. used to frighten the life out everyone who met them. always in trouble with the police.
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Post by: Fudge on September 24, 2009, 07:43 PM
I dont remember them but my brother does one of them fell a sleep and badley burn't her legs her daughter lives nr him now Fudge
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Post by: greeny on October 13, 2009, 03:01 PM
hi i see another pub up for let and the doors closed the boundry at guide bridge , a few years ago that was a thriving buisness with meals served ,
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Denise on October 17, 2009, 03:35 PM
The personification of a 'Red Lion' - 50 pints a day!!! Every hour a happy hour!!! I did watch a bit of it, where the men were laughing about the opposite sex.
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Post by: greeny on October 25, 2009, 12:13 PM
hi went by the crowthorn pub this morning it looks like it might be opening  soon there was a bit of activity out sie the pub :D
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Post by: Fudge on October 31, 2009, 02:10 AM
Just heard tonight that the Irish Club is closing not got a date yet, But thought for a while it was on its way out Fudge
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Post by: herby on October 31, 2009, 04:56 AM
Hi
     Is that the Irish club on Old St. My brother sang there a couple of times in the thirties he was only young at the time but he had a nice voice. herby

 
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Post by: greeny on October 31, 2009, 11:25 AM
hi thats come as shock fudge i thought irish club would survive through thick and thin ,herby the one old street closed years ago must have been in the 60 , the new one opened in the 60s it is on wellington road facing the prince of orange
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Post by: chrisandangie on November 19, 2009, 12:02 PM
I did a gig at the Irish club a fortnight ago,and picking my gear up the day after,Angie knew the old guy there,cos her grandad used to be the president there. In a nutshell,they owe the vat man 9000. I think the rumours are greatly exaggerated. Going up the posts a bit,I used to go see gigs at the Queens Arms in Old Glossop,my friends old band,socrates used to play there,fronted by Billy , now known as the creator of The Bradshaws  :) The Spread Eagle on Woolley Bridge was a good gig venue too,oh and The Trap,I could go on an on !
Another Development,another pub,where I used to be the resident DJ,Bar 15 has had its licence revoked,until a full hearing on Dec 8th,the police have got the order granted because of all the trouble there recently. I know the owner,he owns The Bowling Green Too,It must have done business a lot of good when Molly Malones was shut down , but now,on that side of Ashton,all three bars (including the Bedroom) are now shut.
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Post by: jan on November 19, 2009, 04:55 PM
I remember my Dad telling me that, when he was in the army during the war, a person was made if he could play the piano.  He could spend the night in the pub and never have to buy a drink  :D 
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Post by: chrisandangie on November 19, 2009, 07:59 PM
Chris queues Billy Joel up  :)   "sing us a song you're the pianoman "
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Post by: Denise on November 20, 2009, 04:07 PM
That's a bit too rowdy for me.  Now this is what I call piano playing!!!   Denise   8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GZVd2xhtHl0&feature=related
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Post by: greeny on November 20, 2009, 07:30 PM
hi i think it would be a good idea to have a piano playing in some pubs it might get them in , what makes me laugh a night club doen south as been slammed for introducing drinks at a very low price , they say it will encourage binge drinking , when you can go to a supermarket and get 30 cans for 15 ,at more a less any time of the day , where does the fair trading come into it  ???
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Post by: lydia on November 21, 2009, 02:27 AM
Loved seeing queens old glossop cos been married 29 years and thats my husbands old local as was from hope st. old glossop. happy times there and bull and  wheatsheaf
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Post by: Bardsleycrow on November 21, 2009, 08:39 AM
I Knew the landlady of the Beau Geste.She was a Bardsley Girl Pat Bates didnt know her married name.Last time I saw her was in 1972.We both lived in Bardsley at the same time.Pat went to Blackpool had a pub there.
Kevin
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Post by: greeny on November 26, 2009, 07:26 PM
hi reading the advertiser today a pub in stalybridge the wharf tavern as had the same landlord and land lady for 60 years now that takes some beating , i bet hes seen some changes over the years,congratulations to dick and kathleen grainger  :)
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Post by: Fudge on November 26, 2009, 07:50 PM
I know Bill and his Wife at the Feathers have seen quite a Number of Yrs not sure how many but my daughter worked there25 yrs ago for them Fudge
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Post by: lydia on November 29, 2009, 01:25 AM
church inn hurst was being boarded up friday!!!
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Post by: Fudge on November 29, 2009, 10:22 AM
I was in the Ash Tree early doors last night. It Heaving but drinks are reasonable and food. A bottle of wine cost 4 99 in some pubs you pay over 3 for a large glass so people will go to the cheaper options Fudge
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Post by: Denise on November 29, 2009, 10:42 AM
church inn hurst was being boarded up friday!!!

Sad to hear about the Church Inn, used to live nearby and it was always busy, as were all the Hurst Cross pubs. Denise   :'(   
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Post by: Ashtonian54 on November 29, 2009, 07:43 PM
I've been in a couple of pubs tonight, one dead, one heaving.  It doesn't take a brain surgeon to know why (and it's nothing to do with the smoking ban).

Karaoke
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Post by: greeny on December 15, 2009, 08:12 PM
hi reading the metro to day ,a landlord as shut the only pub in the village in metfield suffolk , after customers wanting to drink all night . he was fed up with punters arriving just before 11 pm so he started calling last orders at 10pm  and the locals started to boycott the pub so he as shut doors now , is that the answer keep them open all night  :D
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Post by: greeny on December 22, 2009, 06:25 PM
hi i see in salford the residents have bought a pub 30 people clubed to gether to buy the pub and keep it open more like a community centre or a social club but if its keeping them open i say good luck to them and hope it does well  :D
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Post by: greeny on January 09, 2010, 01:09 PM
hi i see the circus tavern lease is up for sale , its on portland street manchester i have been in the pub a few times it must be one of the smallest pub in the country , if it as 40 people in its full to capacity , i believe at lot of celebrities frequency it
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Post by: sooty on January 09, 2010, 03:35 PM
the smallist pub in britain is the nut shell in Bury st Edmunds,used to have to go up stairs to spend a penny,could,nt say if it,s still open as most customers had to drink outside on the pavement and this practice is not allowed by the police,
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Post by: Denise on January 09, 2010, 03:45 PM
World's Smallest and UK smallest Pubs

http://www.whitebeertravels.co.uk/signal.html

Denise   8)
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Post by: Bill on January 10, 2010, 12:45 AM
I see Wetherspoon's are advertising cheap drinks that they conveniently don't have when asked for.  Not for the first time.  I think the trading standards should pay them a visit.

It lost them my (meagre) business tonight.
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Post by: jaywit on January 10, 2010, 04:03 PM
It's a merchandising thing just to get you in.
Same thing happens here all the time with the flyer's.Sometimes they cover themselves with minuscule print(subject to availability) I don't let them get off,I insist on a raincheck!!
Wouldn't think it would work with beer though.
Just ask to see the owner or manager and point out that you know,you know he knows, that it is against the law to make false advertising statements
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Post by: Denise on January 10, 2010, 04:40 PM
Article of interest, Bill. It's obviously available elsewhere!  Or maybe they haven't tried asking for it!   Denise   :o

LINK (http://www.wigantoday.net/wigannews/Cheap-booze-blast.5959051.jp)
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Post by: greeny on January 14, 2010, 06:43 PM
hi i went by the junction at guide bridge i see it was closed , and the let signes up ,when i said to a mate of mine another one closed he said it been closed a while , i use to be a good little local pub with plenty going on  :(
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Post by: greeny on February 03, 2010, 12:18 PM
hi i walk through ashton the other day about 9 am  the pubs that were rumoured to be opening does not seem to have come to much they are still closed , even the bedroom  [ the pit and nelson ] does  not seem to have come to much , there was a shop opened for christmas ,in  pitt and nelson , and the wine lodge on stamford street there no work going on in there , i have not been round ashton at night time for a good few years now , whats it like then ? will ther be more closures , i was wondering if its the same up and down the country or just here up north  ???
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Post by: Fudge on February 03, 2010, 01:58 PM
When I go to Ashton at night we always go to the Ashtree Cheep and cheerful its pointless wandering round because most of the other pubs are dead and it cost more for a drink . Fudge
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Post by: Nan on February 03, 2010, 03:16 PM
Been to Ashton this morning and there is now work being done on the Pitt & Nelson. Also there is a big notice outside saying "Shops to let", and another upstairs advertising office space. Looks like it`s being converted for other commercial use.
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Post by: greeny on February 05, 2010, 12:14 PM
hi i wonder what this taste like now http://uk.news.yahoo.com/18/20100205/tsc-shackleton-whisky-recovered-after-10-c2ff8aa.html     i  wonder if kiwi knew about this  :D
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Post by: Nan on February 05, 2010, 02:58 PM
Had a proper look at the Pitt & Nelson this morning and it`s going to be a pc shop and says "opening soon".
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandandangie on February 05, 2010, 08:16 PM
Its said that for months now Nan,its supposed to be moving from accross the road,the shop is always being featured in "police camera action" type programs,buying stolen phones ect  >:(
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Ashtonian54 on February 05, 2010, 11:17 PM
Politically correct shop?  Stolen phones?
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on February 08, 2010, 11:45 AM
hi nan i went by the pit and nelson this morning the work was in full swing i am glad they are doing somthing with it ,there nothing worse then boarded up door and windows , it gives the area a run down look ,like the top end of old street , the bottom end of old street and stamford street looks a bit glum since the developers pulled out  :)
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on March 11, 2010, 11:30 AM
hi went by the crowthorn pub on crowthorn road yeasterday there was  sandwhich board out side saying the long wait is over re opens on fiday 12 march this friday at 7-00 pm .it must be great news for the locals and its great to see a pub that is re opening  :D  :D  :D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Denise on March 11, 2010, 06:42 PM
Who's for an early brekkie? (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1257226/Pub-chain-open-7am-breakfast-beer.html)       ;)
Title: The Crowthorne
Post by: Ashtonian54 on March 11, 2010, 09:36 PM
Here it is
http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&sll=53.445600,-1.936700&sspn=0.008400,0.024200&ie=UTF8&hq=Melandra+Crescent,+Hattersley,&hnear=&filter=0&update=1&layer=c&cbll=53.480803,-2.113684&panoid=EtmAqdBjzqb-YzxUXaO9nA&cbp=12,35.72,,0,-3.62&ll=53.480806,-2.113431&spn=0,359.979208&t=h&z=16 (http://maps.google.com/maps?f=q&source=s_q&hl=en&geocode=&sll=53.445600,-1.936700&sspn=0.008400,0.024200&ie=UTF8&hq=Melandra+Crescent,+Hattersley,&hnear=&filter=0&update=1&layer=c&cbll=53.480803,-2.113684&panoid=EtmAqdBjzqb-YzxUXaO9nA&cbp=12,35.72,,0,-3.62&ll=53.480806,-2.113431&spn=0,359.979208&t=h&z=16)
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Bill on March 12, 2010, 12:37 AM
Thanks for the link Ian.

Something to watch out for is that the streetmap links seem to include the last place you visited on streetmap.  I visited the Crowthorne from another location (to check if the Y in the Ryecroft Street sign on the side of the pub really had been pinched) and when I checked my link to the Crowthorne, it included my previous location.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on March 13, 2010, 11:46 AM
hi  crowthorn street as two names at one end of the street its spelt the same way as the pub with E  on the end and at the other end of the street it spelt without the  E  i heard the crowthorn pub did realy well last night for the re opening i will have to give it a visit  :)
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Ashtonian54 on March 14, 2010, 12:10 AM
You are right Bill!
Interesting, I was trying to find David Askews House in Hattersley. Hence the Melandra crescent from the link.
Growing up we knew Hattersley was a bit rough.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandandangie on March 14, 2010, 12:51 PM
Big Bertha  ;)   It was Lucy when I was a kid in Hadfield,and usually behind the "drome" which used to to be a cinema,now long gone.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on March 15, 2010, 12:17 PM
hi i heard that another pub as re opened the swan at cockbrook it must be the latest trend that they get the lease for 6 months put a manager in to run it and after 6 months if the pub is doing ok they then get a longer lease , i hope they all do well and the trend continues , but who are the hidden owners  ???
Title: Crowthorn 1878
Post by: Ashtonian54 on March 16, 2010, 12:28 AM
Rather odd
http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&q=bb10+1uj&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Burnley,+Lancashire+BB10+1UJ,+United+Kingdom&gl=us&ei=PemeS7yaI4josQOlwMyNCw&ved=0CAgQ8gEwAA&ll=53.480934,-2.113688&spn=0.008211,0.029311&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.48101,-2.11368&panoid=qiG988arksTciRxkOV117A&cbp=12,85.39,,1,15.21 (http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&client=firefox-a&q=bb10+1uj&ie=UTF8&hq=&hnear=Burnley,+Lancashire+BB10+1UJ,+United+Kingdom&gl=us&ei=PemeS7yaI4josQOlwMyNCw&ved=0CAgQ8gEwAA&ll=53.480934,-2.113688&spn=0.008211,0.029311&z=16&layer=c&cbll=53.48101,-2.11368&panoid=qiG988arksTciRxkOV117A&cbp=12,85.39,,1,15.21)
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Denise on March 16, 2010, 10:16 AM
Hi Ian,  Wondered if this date plaque was originally on a building in Crowthorn Place, on Ashton census 1871 and also shown on the old Ashton West map I posted on here 16 Jan (Ask a Question - Spring Bank Cottages) (Londonancestor.com).      :)  
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Ashtonian54 on March 16, 2010, 05:18 PM
I agree, that that's not the original location.

Interestingly my house, shown earlier, has a plaque.  "Mount Cecilia 1899"
I never found the history for why the name was chosen.

(http://ashtonian.smugmug.com/Street-Scenes/Ashton-under-lyne/Mount-Cecilia-62274784/294816917_sDgyJ-L.jpg)

Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: lydia on April 04, 2010, 10:37 AM
Does anyone know whats happening to the Church Inn at hurst?
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandandangie on April 04, 2010, 10:39 AM
The front has been removed,and its being coverted into flats  :-\
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: lydia on April 04, 2010, 09:55 PM
Thanks for that. Hoped it was going to be a restaurant or something
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on April 05, 2010, 11:18 AM
hi thats another one the church turned into flats .along with the corporation off penny meadow,
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Bill on April 14, 2010, 12:13 PM
Just curious......

How did this get on the internet as a separate item? (http://forum.ashton-under-lyne.com/index.php?action=printpage;topic=70.0)
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Martin on April 14, 2010, 06:25 PM
It's not a separate item, Bill. It is the same data as you see in this thread but with all the layout stripped out. You obtained this version by pressing the "Print" button in the bottom right hand part of the page!
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on May 26, 2010, 05:37 PM
hi went by the sun inn audenshaw glad to see hit up and running also the globe hotel on shepley as been done up and opened again are things on the up or is people turning to drink  :D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Denise on May 27, 2010, 06:28 PM
Hi Ian, There used to be a Flower's Brewery in Warwickshire ...........

LINK (http://www.midlandspubs.co.uk/breweries/warwickshire.htm)
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Ashtonian54 on May 28, 2010, 05:15 PM
I'll have a bottle of extra stout please and a packet of crisps, thank you.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on June 10, 2010, 11:31 AM
hi i have heard the boundry pub at guide bridge will be opening shortly , they are advertising for chefs and waitresses , are things on the up  :)
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on June 17, 2010, 10:44 AM
hi there a new show bar opened in ashton on katherine street which was the little india restaurant , it looks like it could do well with live entertainment most nights ,and on the bus route  :D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on July 03, 2010, 02:52 PM
hi thing must be on the ups the junction at guide bridge as opened again ,  :D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Fudge on July 24, 2010, 09:29 AM
Went by the Red House last night it is all boareded up don't know how long its been closed use to do a lovely pub meal and entertainment there I know it changed hands and the food went down hill but its a shame its gone that way to Fudge
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: JKG on July 24, 2010, 10:14 AM
Yes it's a shame about the Red House - I live round the corner from it and I never thought i'd see the day it shutdown...

Alas, there was an article in the Advertiser about the former Landlord - animal cruely conviction.

Seems he disappeared overnight when this broke into the public domain.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: musky on July 24, 2010, 01:55 PM
This is probrably why the Red House closed down JUSTICE DONE SCUMBAG http://menmedia.co.uk/tamesideadvertiser/news/s/1193001_pub_landlord_abandoned_sick_dog_in_field


Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on July 29, 2010, 06:20 PM
hi i heard that the stamford in stalybridge will close this week end its the pub at the top of fire station steps  :(
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: JKG on July 30, 2010, 01:35 PM
Yes - I know the owner of the little Stamford where you mention - quite a scary looking chap with his piercings but nice enough when you speak to him.

By his own admission he drinks the profits dry himself !

Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Bill on August 10, 2010, 10:10 AM
Scare story of the week. (http://www.guardian.co.uk/business/2010/aug/09/beer)  They're priming us so that when beer only goes up to 3.99 a pint, we'll all breathe a sigh of relief.

What con merchants these folk are.  I can get a good pint in several pubs in Ashton for 1.50 - and probably cheaper still in a supermarket.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on August 11, 2010, 12:29 PM
hi bill that is the scare story of the week .just as i thought things were picking up on the pub scene ,how many will that close if a pint of beer cost 3-99p :-[
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: heather on August 18, 2010, 10:01 PM
Noticed that the Half Way House on Whiteacre Road and the Canterbury Arms both have for sale signs outside
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: remonisce on August 31, 2010, 04:09 PM
Hello Greeny,

Just signed up today!

I've only just found the site; in the seventies, I used to frequent a club called the horseshoe. I remember having a great time there; I remember seeing little and large right at the very beginning of their road to stardom!

I remember their first night on. There wasnt a changing room for the acts but there was a curtain to the right of the dance floor where they had to change behind. My claim to fame is I saw them both with no pants on both hopping about bumping into each other whilst trying to get into their glittering stage suits.
Hilarious at the time.....

I found this site by googling just the words "horseshoe club" and I found two posts, the one that seemed to be the most informative was yours Greeny.

I would be grateful for any info on the horseshoe, from you or any other member, for instance, where the horseshoe was as I cant remember 38 years on! Is the building still there? I assume the club has long gone....

I've been thinking about taking a trip around all of the old haunts and would love to just stand on the pavement outside the entrance - I think you had to walk up some stairs to get into the club.

I used to know one of the Owners, a lady called Anne (cant remember her second name) and I was hoping to find her and send her a supprise email after all these years.

It would bbe great if you or anyone else can help with any info.

Regards all,
remonisce.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Fudge on August 31, 2010, 05:38 PM
Hi The Horseshoe use to be on Old Street as you was going up to St Michaels on the opposite side . It as long gone the owners were the Wrights and there are still a few of there Children round and about . Fudge
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Ashtonian54 on August 31, 2010, 05:58 PM
I wonder if that's where I went in 1973 and saw a really racy stag night performance.

Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Bill on September 02, 2010, 05:37 PM
Following a question in another topic, I think the following are the Ashton pubs still in business.  If there are any I've missed off or that shouldn't be on the list, please shout out.


Angel                Old Street             Miners Arms         Mossley Road
Ash Tree             Wellington Road        New Inn             Mossley Road
Beau Geste           Katherine Street       Oddfellows Arms     Alderley Street
Bowling Green        Penny Meadow           Old Ball            Broadoak Road
Broadoak             Broadoak Road          Oliver's Bar        Bow Street
Caledonia            Warrington Street      Oxford              Stockport Road
Cambridge            Cambridge Street       Peaks               Gorsey Lane
Canterbury Arms      Canterbury Street      Peg's Tavern        St. Albans Avenue
Corporation Arms     Stockport Road         Prince of Orange    Warrington Street
Cottage Tavern       Mossley Road           Ring o' Bells       Margaret Street
Crowthorn            Crowthorn Road         Royal Oak           Nook Lane
Dog and Partridge    Oldham Road            Sheldon Arms        Lord Sheldon Way
Dog and Pheasant     Oldham Road            Star Inn            Old Street
Engine Room          Wellington Road        Station             Warrington Street
Feathers             Stamford St. Central   Swan                Stamford Square
Forester's Call      Old Street             Sycamore Inn        Stamford Square
Guzzlin' Goose       Bentinck Street        Theatre Tavern      Oldham Road
Hare and Hounds      Luzley Road            Time Zone           St. Michaels Square
Hare and Hounds      Kings Road             Tontine             Penny Meadow
Hartshead Inn        Mossley Road           Top End Bar         Stamford St. Central
Harvester            Fold Way               Trafalgar           William Street
Hop Pole             Oldham Road            Turnpike            Lees Road
Junction Inn         Mossley Road           Warrington Arms     Stamford Square
Junction Inn         Turner Lane            Waterloo Tavern     Oldham Road
Ladysmith            Wellington Road        Wellington          Oldham Road
Little India         Katherine Street       White Horse Inn     Stamford Square
Lord Napier          Albion Street          Witchwood           Old Street
Lord Nelson          Nook Lane              Woodcock Inn        Newmarket Road
March Hare           Crowhill Road          Woodman             Oldham Road
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: herby on September 02, 2010, 10:11 PM
Hi
         Isn't the Asheton arms on Booth st still open that used to be a very good pub   herby
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Martin on September 02, 2010, 11:51 PM
What about the Red House? There's a BIG sign outside saying "Open".
Hartshead Inn off Mossley Road?
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Ashtonian54 on September 03, 2010, 12:01 AM
What about where the George and Dragon was? FKA The Cavern?  Oliver's Bar

Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Martin on September 03, 2010, 12:40 AM
I think the Red House is shut (for now).

That's what I thought, which was why I was surprised to see the big Open sign above the door.

Regarding the Hartshead, I'd assumed it was in Mossley, due to the 01457 phone number.  Correct me if I'm wrong.

The Hartshead Inn is definitely in Ashton. The Mossley sign is at the top of the drive although this is the current ward boundary rather than the historic boundary between the two towns. The boundary stone is further up the road. However, the ward boundary goes to the east of the pub itself, so it is still in Ashton!

Besides, Carrbrook houses have 01457 phone numbers, and they are not in Mossley!
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Ashtonian54 on September 03, 2010, 12:42 AM
I remember the fireplace.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Denise on September 03, 2010, 09:05 AM
Thought 'The Peaks' Gorsey Lane had closed its doors too, Bill.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Fudge on September 03, 2010, 09:16 AM
It has re-opened now Fudge
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Denise on September 03, 2010, 09:31 AM
Thanks for that, Fudge, nice to know. I've fond memories of the Peaks, going for lunch and to quiz nights, when I worked and lived nearby.  
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: JKG on September 03, 2010, 02:11 PM
Star Inn - Old Street - still open and not on the list.

RedHouse - Closed (despite the sign!)
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: lydia on September 03, 2010, 09:37 PM
Thanks Bill great to see your list but it willprob. change from week to week
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on September 12, 2010, 11:12 AM
hi i see the queens on oldham road is boarded up again , i bet the boarder uppers  are dizzy its been open shut more times in the last five years then any pub in ashton, went by the lamb in duckinfield , they were working on it painting and putting windows in , could that be opening again ?   :D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: lydia on September 12, 2010, 10:11 PM
one of my friends mum used to be landlady of the queens and got me playing darts for them. previously had never been in there!!!
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: heather on September 20, 2010, 09:23 PM
Just noticed that the Oddies on Kings Road is up for sale
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Fudge on September 20, 2010, 10:07 PM
The New owners have not lasted long then been in about 18 months. I use to go before but when they took over it seemed to go a bit rough looking Fudge
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Ashtonian54 on September 21, 2010, 12:34 AM
hi i see the queens on oldham road is boarded up again , i bet the boarder uppers  are dizzy its been open shut more times in the last five years then any pub in ashton, went by the lamb in duckinfield , they were working on it painting and putting windows in , could that be opening again ?   :D

I quite like this building (Lamb)
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on October 15, 2010, 11:38 AM
hi went by the lamb on saturday they were still working on it,  i was wondering if it would open as a pub again ?and further down the road the park was boarded up so thats another one closed  :)
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: brian seward on October 18, 2010, 04:02 AM
Lydia,, Are you talking about my past sister in law Ethel Seward She had the Queens in the 60s?
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: JKG on October 19, 2010, 02:57 PM
Does anybody know what the old Redhouse is becoming ? - They have painted it a horrible shade of cream i know that !
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: lydia on October 19, 2010, 08:02 PM
No brian sorry it was later than that. My friends mum pat had robin hood first then took over queens after that prob in 90's think.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: jan on October 20, 2010, 10:02 AM
Lydia - one of these days I'll count up your posts and their location.  I'm sure most of them are concerning public houses  ;D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: lydia on October 21, 2010, 09:17 AM
ha jan learnt about pubs from my big sister lol
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: jan on October 21, 2010, 09:48 AM
Of course you're referring to our sister aren't you?   ;D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: lydia on October 21, 2010, 10:07 AM
Well I'm not commenting any further so you'll have to decide between urselves who is responsible for my downfall
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: jan on October 21, 2010, 10:10 AM
Just rung Mum - she says you didnt need much pushing  ;D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: lydia on October 21, 2010, 09:17 PM
Unfortunately don't frequent many pubs nowadays, last time was in the summer whenwe went to the turnpike ( now closed) went to a party and then went in the lord nelson which was very busy,  and then home. Rather have my vino at home although miss my darts and the socialising but its too expensive. lol
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: jan on October 22, 2010, 08:29 AM
Hi Bill.  We have one pub in our village and a sports social club.  Our pub used to be the centre of the community and the couple who ran it held all sorts of special evenings to attract people in.  A few years ago it was sold and the new owners stripped the interior and refurbished it.  A lot of money was spent and it looked wonderful.  Only problem was that it looked like a London wine bar and the prices were set accordingly.  Business plummeted and the locals took to going to the social club.  The light finally dawned and prices were reduced, meals were still good but less ambitious and expensive and people have started to drift back.  With the smoking ban too it's a much nicer place to go.  As Lydia says though the price of wines does tend to put me off going in as often as I used to.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Fudge on October 22, 2010, 08:43 AM
You can get a bottle of wine in the ashtree for 5 99 not bad as a large glass cost 3 odd and the bottle last all night. but the cheapest bottle is Aldi 2 99. I tend to have a drink in more than I go out now Fudge
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandangie on October 22, 2010, 09:18 PM
Can we have a forum meeting before xmas, for us locals, somewhere local and cheap , to put a face to names ? Angie knows gina, but i know no one ! I would love to see Bill, Fudge, and Martin, and anyone else who is local!  By cheap i dont mean Aldi  ;D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: lydia on October 22, 2010, 11:31 PM
what a great idea, can we have the meeting somewhere warm? Anyway feel like I know you all by now!!!
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Fudge on October 23, 2010, 09:29 AM
I would love to if its a night I can make I can put a face to Martin and Greeny might know more if we meet up. If its Aldi will have to find a warm door hole  ;D ;D Fudge
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Bill on October 23, 2010, 09:45 AM
Sorry to be a misery, but not for me.  I like the anonymity of the internet - in fact if the people who know me saw some of the rubbish I post on these pages, they'd disown me.

Besides which, I doubt if I could get the plastic surgery done in time. ;)
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on October 23, 2010, 11:06 AM
hi bill have you heard of the 60 minute make over  ;), like you bill the anomity suits me . but it would be nice to put a face to the name , like the wife brother lives in germany spoke to him many a time on the phone seen pictures of him when he was younger , when he came over for a visit  in 2001 it was great to put a face to his voice , the beer prices seem cheaper round ashton these days its 2-30p for a pint of john smiths smooth bitter in my local  :D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: jaywit on October 23, 2010, 02:27 PM
P.S. Could anybody from Ashton pronounce Slough in days gone by?

I must have been one of the "lucky ones"
My uncle lived there.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: jaywit on October 23, 2010, 02:46 PM
Can we have a forum meeting before xmas, for us locals, somewhere local and cheap , to put a face to names ? Angie knows gina, but i know no one ! I would love to see Bill, Fudge, and Martin, and anyone else who is local!  By cheap i dont mean Aldi  ;D
I tend to think the best way is as now."Imagination"
No suprises!!!! Bill = Could be Hilda Ogden, Martin=Ken Barlow Fudge=Blanche Greeny=Steptoe(father)
Not my mindseye but who knows.There's now't so funny as folk.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandangie on October 23, 2010, 02:57 PM
The real Jack Duckworth lives not 200 yds from us , and we used to go see him sing once a week in the broadoak, until he spat his dummy out with the smoking ban !
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Fudge on October 23, 2010, 03:11 PM
Jaywit  Stev Mc donald you rebel  :D ;D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandangie on October 23, 2010, 08:48 PM
I have a mental image of bill looking like mr oddie, complete with chequered jacket  :) 
I have vast experience in this field, i was a rebel CBer in 1979 ( it was legalised in 1981) and to listen to all those dulcet tones , then meet them was quite an eye opener ( to be fair it must of been for them too  :D )  but non too shabby cos i married one of them ! (1984 - 1991)
19 a copy !!  i was on the CB when i moved to ashton too, in 1996, I was and always will be Labtec, or G0KQN if you move in higher circles !
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: jaywit on October 24, 2010, 02:43 PM
I don't even watch Corrie,thank g*d.I had to do a google Stev Mcdonald even.
I leave it to my better half after recording it on HDrive.
Not trying to be funny Bill but I could see you with the boots on all wrapped up to keep warm.I'm a socks and sleeping bag man as I'm up earlier than the wife and the heating clicks on later.Have to save every penny.
Hope I didn't tread on any toes.
I've since thought about the meeting thing and I think it's best to keep it all just in the imagination.
I really have a vivid imagination but it changes so often,and I think that's how it should be.
I'll modify the post before Kiwi sees it,I don"t want him knocking on my door.


Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Ashtonian54 on October 24, 2010, 09:55 PM
I have a mental image of bill looking like mr oddie, complete with chequered jacket  :) 
I have vast experience in this field, i was a rebel CBer in 1979 ( it was legalised in 1981) and to listen to all those dulcet tones , then meet them was quite an eye opener ( to be fair it must of been for them too  :D )  but non too shabby cos i married one of them ! (1984 - 1991)
19 a copy !!  i was on the CB when i moved to ashton too, in 1996, I was and always will be Labtec, or G0KQN if you move in higher circles !


rainy city cruisers
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Bill on October 25, 2010, 12:47 AM
Hello Chris.

Many years ago, when I were a lad, a neighbour gave me a 'crystal set' in a tiny plastic box with an earpiece (off a telephone).

Trying it out one night, I picked up a voice as clear as a bell and, by earwigging, found out it was the radio repair man who had a shop nearby and who was a radio 'ham'.  Not being clued up on these things, I somehow assumed that if I could hear him, he could hear me and so every time I connected the battery to hear his conversations with the outside world (Dukinfield, Stalybridge, etc.), I held my breath.

My crystal set days soon came to an end though when in order to check if the earpiece was working properly I put the wires into the mains socket.  After a flash and a bang and a smell of burning shellac, the earpiece went to meet its maker, taking the power to all the sockets in the house with it.

Thinking that the wire on the main fuse box was there because they'd lost one of the screws, and not the electric board's seal to keep idiots like me out, I cut though it to open the fuse box and check the fuse.  Luck was on my side at that point when my mum came in and stopped me.  A few more minutes and I may have gone the same way as the earpiece.

As the saying goes, a little knowledge is a dangerous thing. ;)
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: herby on October 25, 2010, 02:14 AM
Hi Bill
               We had one of those Crystal and cats whisker sets when I was a kid safe though we didn't have lectric then just gas and candles.    herby
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Bill on October 25, 2010, 10:15 AM
Hello herby.

I have a very vague memory of having the house wired so it must have been on gas until after the war.  I also have a similarly vague memory of taking an accumulator somewhere, so we may have had a battery operated wireless.

If some of the folk who died around that time could come back and see live pictures in their living room of people on the other side of the world, they'd probably pop their clogs again.

I wonder what life will be like in sixty years time.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on October 25, 2010, 11:29 AM
hi bill i bet there no pubs in 60 years time  :D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandangie on October 25, 2010, 08:06 PM
I tried a cats whisker radio when i was a kid Bill. I too was attracted to electricity , i was putting plugs on for the neighbours from the age of 7, my dad was terrified of electrickery. for my 7th birthday , i got a Fidelity record player from Currys in Glossop. My dad insisted on putting the plug on BANG ! no present until after new year ( my birthday is 30th Dec) when in the new year he took it back to currys , we got another one and I put the plug on! My first 2 albums were Taproot Manuscript by Neil Diamond (my mums choice) but an album i love to this day, and 2 music for pleasure albums , one by Ronnie Hilton , and one by Max Bygraves, I have never been able to find those two records !
I remember some of the songs - Heart of My Heart , You're A pink Toothbrush, A Windmill In Old Amsterdam, Mr Sandman,Why Does Everybody Call Mer Bighead ect ect . I also came by a record by Cliff Richard , Batchelor Boy , and I can still remember my mum saying "listen to the words"  ;D
I also had another single I loved , Desiderata by Len somebody.  The first single I ever bought was Power To All Our Friends by Cliff too , from Ken Irelands electrcal shop on Station Rd in Hadfield , he had a rack with the top 40 singles in, and he used to stand albums up in the front window, I can still remember staring at the covers of Rod Stewart Atlantic Crossing, and ELO out of the Blue  ;D
I had a near miss when I was 5, we had the modern plugs in 229 Woolley Bridge Rd, but there were a few of the older ones to along the skirting board, I don't know what they were called but there were 3 pins almost in a line , 2 thin ones and a wide one in the middle. The table leg knocked the front off one , and i was mesmerised. I crawled under the table and touched it. I was blasted to the other side of the room ;)

It was shortly after that I remember my mum coming home crying from work , because her friends husband had been doing the house up,working on the electics,and had knelt accidently into a bowl of water, enough said  :'(
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Bill on October 25, 2010, 10:01 PM
Hello Chris.

One of the most useful gizmos I have in my tool box is one of these. (http://www.voltstick.co.uk/product_voltstick_230Y.htm)  You don't trust it if it doesn't light up (it could be that its battery has gone) but it puts you on your guard if it does light up.

Regarding some of the music you mentioned, some links that may be useful...

Les Crane (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xxrsNCLr_xk)

Max Bygraves (http://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=max+bygraves&aq=f)

Every hit. (http://www.everyhit.com/index.html)  Handy if your memory's as bad as mine.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandangie on October 25, 2010, 11:38 PM
Thanks Bill, how did i forget gilly gilly  :) " by a tiny house"  ;D  Yes i found desiderata on spotify, it makes me cry cos it takes me back to my childhood, but angie is just bemused ! There was an update to the theme not so long ago - sunscreen by Baz Lurman , i love that song too, but they both just state the obvious !  Music is the thread to my life, never realised it when younger , but so many songs are attached to major parts of my life. I remember being in the Masons Arms in hadfield on my 21st , and my mum was there , a local group was on, Barry my friend still sings , and he sang "Sleepy Jean" for my mum, I never heard the song before, but it will always remind me of her.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Ashtonian54 on October 26, 2010, 01:41 AM
It's inconceivable today, especially here, to buy things without a plug on.

Yet I learned most useful tips from my sister's women's magazines which included tips and tricks about the house.
My dad though was the one who taught me how to wrap a wire around a terminal and tighten the screw.

Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandangie on October 26, 2010, 08:13 AM
Same here Ian , now we are in Europe they dictate that everything must have a plug on , preferably moulded on , to enhance its built in obsolescence !  Another thing, in an engine , there are bearings, that are exposed to massive loads and heat, they can run for 1000s of hours,never giving up, yet after 2 years in a washing machine , run twice a day at 90 mins per wash,they crumble to dust  :-*
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandangie on October 26, 2010, 10:58 AM
I always get the provebial taken out of me when i peel potatoes because quoting my late mammy " you're kack handed"  :)
I was always assured too that i was that small the only job i could ever do was to be a jockey, it never dawned on me she meant riding horses , i always thought she meant on the radio, so quite ironic i became a DJ  ;D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: wombat on October 26, 2010, 11:58 AM
I know what you mean about peeling potatoes. I'm left handed and therefore I push the peel away from me when operating a peeler. It's perfectly efficient, just a bit messy if you are too vigorous. I did once try a left handed device but  I just couldn't get on with it.

Whoops.. better start talking about pubs again before the moderator gets into a strop. I used to drink at either the Miners Arms or the Sycamore by the way. 
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandangie on October 26, 2010, 05:56 PM
Martin is a good lad , he dosen't bother about a meandaring topic such as this i think (hope :) )
I didn't start drinking in ashton until I moved here in 1996, except for the odd trip from Glossop to the feathers.
One of the first pubs i first went into was the spread eagle , and i'm a biker , love heavy rock ect , but i didnt like it in there !
I have been in most now (a lot gone or shut now) and i shy away from proper drinking places like the bowling green !
One thing that always strike me when im driving my bus up and down penny meadow is all the people sat in the ash tree with breakfast and a pint at 9am, i truley am doing something wrong  :P
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: herby on October 27, 2010, 02:46 AM
Hi
    Drinking at nine - o clock thats a bit late a few of them in Sydney open at six.    herby
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Kiwi on October 28, 2010, 03:50 AM
I'll modify the post before Kiwi sees it,I don"t want him knocking on my door.

How do you know when you've been visited by a Kiwi ??

Your thongs have been nicked and your cat's preggers  ;)
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: herby on October 28, 2010, 07:43 AM
I'll modify the post before Kiwi sees it,I don"t want him knocking on my door.

How do you know when you've been visited by a Kiwi ??

Your thongs have been nicked and your cat's preggers  ;)
Hi Kiwi
             I thought it was only the sheep.           herby
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Ashtonian54 on October 31, 2010, 07:11 PM
I heard a whisper tonight that Peg's Tavern had closed.

 Well, there's always the British legion at 18 Nottingham Drive. lol.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Martin on November 01, 2010, 12:59 AM
I heard a whisper tonight that Peg's Tavern had closed.

 Well, there's always the British legion at 18 Nottingham Drive. lol.


What do you know about my mate Frank, then?
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Ashtonian54 on November 01, 2010, 06:00 PM
It's my pet peeve.
Google maps having names in the wrong area.
As an example; having the Hartshead Inn where Stamford School was (New Charter Academy). (it's fixed now)

Still shows the British Legion on Nottingham Drive, which of course is where Frank lives.
Maybe I was thinking more on the American legion lines which have parking, function rooms, a bar and of course bingo!

Pegs Tavern has had no action on either their Facebook page or twitter account for the last 12 months
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandangie on November 01, 2010, 08:56 PM
Hi from Grange over Sands  ;D  Yes The Pegs Tavern Closed 22nd of October , but there are rumours that its going to re open as a carvery.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Kiwi on November 01, 2010, 11:47 PM
Speaking of which, a bloke in Plymouth got made redundant earlier this year and started his own business making yachts in his garage.  Apparently, sails are going through the roof. ;)

Bit like a friend of mine, he just started his own business, making land-mines that look like prayer mats.

Its doing amazingly well he says, Prophets are going though the roof.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: pamela on November 02, 2010, 02:53 PM
kiwi get ur pal to invest in some inflatable dolls... they blow themselves up !!!!
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on November 05, 2010, 01:48 PM
hi chrisandangie is pegs tavern and pegs lantern the same pubs ?
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandangie on November 05, 2010, 03:54 PM
No Greeny , doh wheres the mrs when you need her ! (at farmfoods actually !) she is the "local" one in our humble abode , i will furnish you with the difference when she returns  :D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandangie on November 05, 2010, 04:38 PM
Well she's back , and yeah its the same pub  :'( ;D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: lydia on November 05, 2010, 10:34 PM
Just heard that the new landlady is not doin too well at the peaks and she been offered the turnpike. Apparentley she had free potatoe pie and the locals were going in eating the pie, not buying anything and then leaving.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandangie on November 06, 2010, 09:29 AM
 ;D And Angie keeps telling me Glossopians are in breds !
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: lydia on November 06, 2010, 07:13 PM
haha my husband is from old glossop. how dare she insult them, only i am allowed
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandangie on November 06, 2010, 11:12 PM
Because I am one  ;D  Just got back from the Manor park display , it was quite simply the best display I have ever seen, im just encoding it now to post onto facebook.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: lydia on November 06, 2010, 11:16 PM
used to have roasted ox didn't they? Puts my 2nd/1st scout group bonfire to shame I bet but I still enjoyed it lol
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: lydia on November 06, 2010, 11:21 PM
Whats ur facebook name cos wud like to see pics
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on December 09, 2010, 11:46 AM
hi went by the boundry on sunday curtains drawn no signs of life as it closed again  ???
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on December 24, 2010, 11:54 AM
hi i see a lot of pubs & clubs around ashton and district will be charging to go in if you want to celebrate new year , which is a not to bad as long as they dont go over the top and charge more then 5each , i have paid 3 for a couples ticket which is good value for what you get so all i need now is my stop out all night tickets ;D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on January 22, 2011, 12:46 PM
hi reading the paper this morning trouble brewing a pint of beer could rise 10% its because of the price of barley as gone up 90% on last years prices , how many pubs will that close ,what with the vat and brewing cost ,not counting the fuel prices just when i thought pubs were just picking up ,  :'(
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: brian seward on January 23, 2011, 03:12 AM
Going through all the blogs about pubs and all, I recall my brother Andy who was also a publican later in life,, he used to play the piano in the "New Inn on Mossley road ..He would play non stop from 7.30 till closing 10.30 and have pint after pint which he never paid for ,But he would play The Anthem at closing and almost fall off the chair and we would have to help him home, His playing was remarkable for he never had any music sheets and never missed a beat
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on January 30, 2011, 02:02 PM
hi another pub thats been turned into something other then a pub is the lamb in duckinfield its now a nursery, they are starting them young  :D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandangie on January 30, 2011, 06:10 PM
I was driving the 231 today , and I noticed the Red House as reopened  ;D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on March 08, 2011, 11:50 AM
hi its good to pubs doing well ,went by the crowthorn the other day its kept open now for twelve months and its now having a face lift it should look quite good when its done  :D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandangie on March 08, 2011, 02:58 PM
Went to see Genes-ish at the Witchwood on Saturday night, vids on youtube (im chriskaraokeman if you want a look) but the rounds were well cheap!
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on March 27, 2011, 05:12 PM
hi went by the crowthorn again to see how its comming on , they have now painted the sides ,and put new signes up it looks posh now , the inside as nearly finished to with alterations and new decor  :)
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Martin on March 27, 2011, 09:40 PM
I noticed that there is an extension being built onto the Heroes of Waterloo.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: HarryM on March 30, 2011, 09:17 PM
Does anyone remember the Castle Inn. It was knocked down years ago. It was between the Anglican Church of St Michael and All Angels and the Methodist church that looked like a Church of England. There was another pub there called the Church Inn. The Castle sold Double Diamond on draught. We used to go in there and ask for a pint and 'dust me a pie' as they had been hanging around for ages.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Martin on March 31, 2011, 12:39 AM
The Castle Inn and the Old Church Inn were on Scotland Street, most of which disappeared with the construction of the by-pass.

By "Methodist church" I assume you are referring to the Albion Congregationalist Church, now known as Albion United Reform Church:

(http://www.ashton-under-lyne.com/blogimages/aul744bl.jpg)

Here is a photo of the War Memorial:

(http://www.ashton-under-lyne.com/blogimages/aul307bl.jpg)

More photos of both can be found on the Photo Blog (http://ashton-under-lyne.blogspot.com/).
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: herby on March 31, 2011, 07:14 AM
Hi
        There were three pubs on Scotland st the other was the Bluebell down at the botoom   herby
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: jan on March 31, 2011, 08:41 AM
Thanks for the lovely photos Martin.  I usually access the site during (rare) quiet moments at work and, due to excessive security,the photo blog is blocked.  I can catch up in the evening but its nice to see photographs during the day.  Those two bring back so many memories!
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on April 19, 2011, 10:43 AM
hi i went in the crowthorn the other night , i thought i was walking into a another place to what it was , they have made a fantastic job it as been transformed into the 21 century, even the beer tasted good  :D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on May 19, 2011, 06:24 PM
hi past the boundry the other day i see thats closed again ,and the blue pig in audenshaw is still boarded up  :)
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandangie on August 15, 2011, 11:20 PM
That cash and carry has just applied for an alcohol licence in last weeks advertiser, I don't know if it will be stepping on Raja bros toes, or may be owned by them too  ;D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Fudge on August 16, 2011, 11:44 AM
The New Nook is also being turned in to a Indian Resturant Fudge
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on September 11, 2011, 01:06 PM
hi went by the hop pole the other night ,closed and the clock stopped ,another bites the dust  :'(
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Vanessa on September 11, 2011, 01:16 PM
Clock hasn't worked for years, but the pub keeps opening and then closing again, I think its too near the town centre and hasn't the entertainment needed to keep people coming.

Vanessa

Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Fudge on September 11, 2011, 02:26 PM
They keep getting unsavory characters in so no one wants to go there . Fudge
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: GayJ on September 11, 2011, 05:01 PM
The Hop Pole,

that's where my husband had one two many before our wedding at Christ Church.  Rather more than the excuse of having to steady his nerves.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: heather on September 18, 2011, 09:30 AM
The sign in the Queens says retail units to let, so looks like it will not be a pub.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: greeny on September 19, 2011, 11:32 AM
hi if the queen becomes retail outlets it will be just as bad as the pub ,no one seems to go round that end of ashton these days , they split ashton in half when they built the arcades and the precinct , through the day its fine but there is no access at night time
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: herby on September 19, 2011, 08:14 PM
Hi
      There cant be many pubs still open can there, there used to be at one time I think it was 141 within 10 minutes walk from the Pitt and Nelson. There were two next door to one an other in Cockbrook .herby
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandangie on September 19, 2011, 09:09 PM
Hmm where do you knock your pot then Bill ?
I was pondering the very fact of the friends I have met on here, and how it would be nice to have a little meet up sometime before christmas, for us locals, be it tea or ale. at the end of the night , you could sneak off, in your bellaclava, to shoot some more moody atmospheric photos  ;D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Ashtonian54 on September 19, 2011, 11:58 PM
It is a sign of modern times and yes of course it is the cheaper beer from supermarkets that heralded in this great big change in our social drinking habits.
Beer here where I live is very cheap and forever on some sort of sale. Yet for me still difficult to drink on my own. I miss the social life that pubs had in my youth back when I lived in Ashton. There was The Greyhound, The Moss Side, Union Arms, Buck and Hawthorne, Oddfellows, Gatefield Inn and the Burlington. Each different in their way. Some rougher than others. 
What they seemed like was an extension of your living room especially your local where you knew everybody and everybody knew you.
Seems that the friendly local is now a piece of fiction only shown on TV soaps.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandangie on September 20, 2011, 06:13 AM
That hasn't changed at all Ian, in the town center there is rough, rougher and a complete dive !  The funny thing is though,they are comfortable  :o  The best I would say are the fire engine or whatever its called today, and Weatherspoons.  If you are out for the craick though , it has to be the Prince !
A few months ago, on a very rare day of work we went around the town in the day, as the kids were staying away. Our friend took us in the Angel, and time stepped backwards 40 years, I'm sure the settees in there hark back from dentists and doctors of my childhood  ;D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Fudge on September 20, 2011, 08:08 AM
We often go to Weatherspoons and often at Saturday tea time for a couple of hours a group of us we will have something to eat and a couple of drinks it is reasonable. But the feathers as not changed much it is still the same inside but the tables that were barrels have gone now. The Junction Pub on Turner Lane always seems busy. The pub that gets a lot of characters in is the Bowling Green so you see we still have a few Pubs about . Fudge
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandangie on September 20, 2011, 10:42 AM
Or go in barefoot and see if your feet still stick to the floor Bill, like is does with your best shoes on  :D
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Fudge on September 20, 2011, 11:51 AM
Bill its one of the pubs I have never been in but I see lots of characters out side having a smoke.  ;D ;D Fudge
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Martin on September 20, 2011, 06:46 PM
When I first moved up this way back in the mid 70s, forum member Burlington took me into a pub in Stalybridge called The Talbot. I'd never before been into a pub that had sawdust on the floor!
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Vanessa on September 20, 2011, 07:22 PM
The Wine Lodge still had its spitoons and sawdust in the late seventies. We used to start our pub crawl there, buy "The Warcry" from the Salvo's and then move on to the next pub.

Vanessa
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Fudge on September 20, 2011, 10:24 PM
We use to start at what is the witchwood up Old St down Stamford St calling at the Wine lodge and Feathers then on George St the Queens and one that is the Citizens advice now and then home. Fudge
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: lydia on September 25, 2011, 01:50 AM
Ashton seems deserted nowadays when we are driving through even on a Friday night, its sad. My favourite pub exp. was on holiday in Caister, gt Yarmouth in August and christmas tree decs and cards still up. This was probablly in the 90's but it still makes me smile.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Martin on September 25, 2011, 06:09 PM
My favourite pub exp. was on holiday in Caister, gt Yarmouth in August and christmas tree decs and cards still up.

The Co-op has just put up a big sales display of mince pies!
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: chrisandangie on September 25, 2011, 06:32 PM
The co op will be having a closing down sale soon  ::)   It was a major own goal to abandon the large store with ample parking like they did. When Asda opens pretty soon the Co op will be empty !
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Martin on September 26, 2011, 12:31 PM
I didn't mean the Co-op on Kings Road, although that one is very useful if you have forgotten something on a Sunday evening.
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: sooty on September 26, 2011, 01:21 PM
Martin, that pub in Stalybridge called the Talbot that was,nt saw-dust on the floor it was last night,s furniture,
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: lydia on September 27, 2011, 09:39 AM
Haha loved the Talbot, used to watch groups there in late 70's
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Ashtonian54 on September 30, 2011, 11:53 PM
The Queen is definitely opening as a pub - in about 3-4 weeks time.

God save the Queen
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: herby on October 01, 2011, 12:22 AM
Hi
     Is that the Queen's in George st.   herby
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Ashtonian54 on October 01, 2011, 01:05 AM
I think it's this one

(http://ashtonian.smugmug.com/Street-Scenes/Ashton-under-lyne/i-9Gt33G5/2/L/queen-L.jpg)
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Post by: Martin on October 01, 2011, 07:27 AM
I think it's this one

You'd better hope Mr Google isn't looking in!
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: herby on October 03, 2011, 05:22 AM
Hi
    Wow Kathrine Street never looked like that when I was there. I know that pub It was next door to the bike shop, see thats gone as well. Didn't it used to have browny red tiles on the out side Or am I thinking of somewhere else. Is the Theatre Royal still there. I must say Ashton looks a lot better now and a lot cleaner
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Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Fudge on October 03, 2011, 09:09 AM
The building next door to the pub is some sort of club now. The Theatre came down in the early 60s Fudge
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: jaywit on October 03, 2011, 12:12 PM
Hello herby.

I can't remember the tiles you mention (my memory's not all that good), nor the bike shop.  I'm almost sure there was a cobblers though on the Oldham Road block near the pub.

There are still green tiles on what was the Robin Hood pub (now the Theatre Tavern) on the other side of Oldham Road and the Theatre Royal is long since gone.

Click here (http://maps.google.com/maps?q=ol6&hl=en&ll=53.488467,-2.098346&spn=0.00549,0.016512&sll=53.364238,-2.27933&sspn=0.044047,0.132093&vpsrc=6&hnear=Ashton-under-Lyne+OL6,+United+Kingdom&t=m&z=17&layer=c&cbll=53.488389,-2.098285&panoid=cSnPUzmyKD_0bT51iyNdFg&cbp=12,153.31,,0,-0.88) for a look down Oldham Road.  The car place on the right is where the Theatre Royal used to be.
I'm with Herby on this .Green tiles the same as the Robin Hood pub and the bike shop,which I think then became a Chinese restaurant and then Indian? 
Title: Re: PUBS IN ASHTON
Post by: Martin on October 03, 2011, 05:42 PM
Wow Kathrine Street never looked like that when I was there. I know that pub It was next door to the bike shop, see thats gone as well. Didn't it used to have browny red tiles on the out side Or am I thinking of somewhere else.       

You may be thinking of the Forester's Call on the corner of Old Street and Oldham Road...

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Post by: chrisandangie on October 03, 2011, 07:32 PM
Nice call Martin  ;D
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Post by: Ashtonian54 on October 03, 2011, 11:42 PM
I just wish i had a picture of the Vauxhall dealership on Katherine street. I loved those windows.
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Post by: herby on October 04, 2011, 12:06 PM
Hi Martin
            I used to go in the Foresters. My mate Tommy Hayden lived round the corner. Another attraction the landlord had two very good looking daughters that worked behind the bar. The beer wasn't bad either.
                                                                                                                             herby   
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Post by: herby on October 04, 2011, 12:13 PM
Hi Bill
        The cobblers was on the corner next to the bike shop.The same street as the side of the Theatre     Royal.  herby
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Post by: Ashtonian54 on October 04, 2011, 05:30 PM
I went in there with Patricia Hansen in 1972, it was a Friday.

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Post by: heather on October 09, 2011, 09:20 PM
Just  noticed that the Oddfellows on Kings Road has another for sale sign on it.
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Post by: Fudge on October 10, 2011, 08:17 AM
What a shame it was not the same after the last owner left. The new ones had been at Caledonia once so I thought they might have given it a go. Went one early evening to have a meal they weren't serving because of some football match never been back because there was only  about 8 in and to stop meals for football says it all. The other Land Lord would have given you a meal and then later in evening send free food round for everyone.  Went in Red House the other friday as a friends husband was doing a gig the food look lovely and the place had a nice feel. Fudge
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Post by: greeny on October 24, 2011, 06:30 PM
hi i walked past the lady smiths pub [ the railway ] i thought it looked a bit spoocky it look like someone had a bad night  ;D
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Post by: Fudge on November 05, 2011, 09:28 AM
Evans Street Band Club as now closed down. Not many clubs left now . Fudge
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Post by: chrisandangie on November 05, 2011, 11:12 AM
Mr Bardsley will have 6 houses up there in a jiffy  ;D
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Post by: HarryM on November 06, 2011, 10:30 PM
Does anyone remember The Castle Inn just off St Michael's Square? It was pulled down years ago to  make way for the roundabout. It was our meeting point in the 60's before going round the town. It was on Scotland Street. Sold Double Diamond beer.
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Post by: herby on November 07, 2011, 05:53 AM
Hi
       My Mam worked there as a barmaid during the war and a while after. It was an Adshead brewery pub then.              herby.
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Post by: Fudge on November 07, 2011, 09:58 AM
I have never been in that one. But my Great Great Granddad was a Landlord there on the 1841 census . Fudge
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Post by: Bill on November 21, 2011, 11:49 AM
Am I dwelling too much in the past or does anyone else think a pianist would go down well in an Ashton pub?
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Post by: Vanessa on November 21, 2011, 02:24 PM
Mmmm. I don't think the younger end would like it, but I wouldn't mind, I tend to find pubs very noisy now, you can't hear anyone speak because the music is so loud. Anyone remember Steve plus Steven in the Odd Whim in the late seventies, one played the organ while the other sang.

Vanessa
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Post by: Vanessa on November 21, 2011, 04:18 PM
Sounds good to me, it someone had the nerve to do it, I think a lot of people would enjoy an evening with piano music in the background with a bit of a sing-a-long, as long as its not Jazz, I hate Jazz, as soon as that started playing I would be out.

Vanessa
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Post by: chrisandangie on November 21, 2011, 05:16 PM
 ;D  We used to go to the Broadoak round the corner for our bit of "culture"  on a Wednesday night, Bill Tarmey with hismates, before he spat his dummy out when they banned smoking in pubs  :o
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Post by: greeny on December 04, 2011, 05:33 PM
hi went by the queens on oldham road to day its good to see it up and running ,and looking very christmasy inside  :)
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Post by: Vanessa on December 04, 2011, 07:37 PM

Bill spends his nights at The March Hare on Crowhill now, his son is the landlord. Sadly he has an inoperative brain tumour, its one of the main reasons why Bill left Corrie, to spend time with his son.

Vanessa
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Post by: greeny on December 18, 2011, 04:29 PM
hi the crowthorn pub in ashton now have live music on i believe the groups they have on are great , one landlord that deserves to do well , let the music rock you  :D
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Post by: greeny on December 24, 2011, 03:24 PM
hi bill or anyone have you got the book on pubs ,if you can help was there a pub on park parade called the seven stars , i recall a seven stars on hill gate , but not on park parade,also at the side of where the old reporter office once stood in front of the market called the star or the star inn  ???
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Post by: Martin on December 24, 2011, 03:45 PM
The Ashton Hotel was on the corner of Warrington Street and Cotton Street, close to the Reporter building. The Star was behind it, a short distance along Cotton Street.

No Seven Stars except the one at Hillgate. The pubs on Park Parade were the Park Hotel and the Station Hotel at the junction of Park Parade and Warrington Street. Where did you hear of a Seven Stars on Park Parade?
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Post by: Albert on December 24, 2011, 04:06 PM

    Re the pub on Park Parade the nick name for the Park Hotel was the seven stars
    the land lord had seven daughters. I think his name was Monks and he keeps pigs
    down Cuckoo, That would be in the 40s or 50s
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Post by: Martin on December 24, 2011, 04:44 PM
Where was "down Cuckoo", Albert?
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Post by: herby on December 24, 2011, 04:51 PM
Hi
   The pub on Park Parade was the the Park Hotel and it wasn't the seven stars it was the seven sisters louis monks was the landlord and he kept pigs on the cut almost opposite his pub I lived round the corner on Church st                              herby
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Post by: chrisandangie on December 25, 2011, 09:33 AM
We called in the Queens last Sunday, for a quick half before going to the Witchwood, I had just ordered when a guy sat at the bar informed me we could get a can for the same price  :)   A sign of the times is the 8 green recycle bins on show !
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Post by: Albert on December 25, 2011, 12:14 PM

  Hi Martin "down Cuckoo" Coming from Ashton first right after County Bridge proper name was St Helaina Sq
  were the police only went down in threes
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Post by: Albert on December 25, 2011, 12:44 PM
Hi Herby I think we are both on the same track  Perhaps Louis Monks just look old having seven sisters
 I never went in the place not old enough then, but still see some of the sisters around
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Post by: herby on December 26, 2011, 01:40 AM
Hi Albert
              You never saw Louis behind the bar it was always his wife and a couple of the girls that were old enough that ran the pub       herby
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Post by: Vanessa on January 12, 2012, 08:33 PM

The Wellington in Waterloo was demolished today.

Vanessa
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Post by: Meg on January 12, 2012, 11:11 PM
Oh the old Wellington gone....scene of many a quick nip over the road from Methodist sunday school socials
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Post by: Vanessa on January 13, 2012, 04:01 PM

Just had a walk down to The Wellington, it's not being demolished, they're doing it up  ;D

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Post by: greeny on February 02, 2012, 01:36 PM
hi another one bites the dust, how many are the left up that end of waterloo ? :(
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Post by: greeny on March 05, 2012, 12:23 PM
hi went by the friendship on old street it looks like work as started on it allthough there is a auction sign up they are also stripping out the building behind the friendship, i think its all one building not heard anything in the grapevine i wonder if its going to be a pub or flats  :D
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Post by: heather on March 07, 2012, 08:20 PM
The Canterbury Arms is well on its way to becoming a supermarket.
Heather
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Post by: greeny on March 12, 2012, 12:01 PM
hi three more pubs written off , the boundry at guide bridge will become flats , the junction at guide bridge will be pulled down and houses built there , and the hooley hill will become an indian restaurant  :(
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Post by: brian seward on March 12, 2012, 11:14 PM
Holy Toledo, There must be a lot of Indian Restaurants in Ashton. I am reading all the time of a pub being converted to an Indian cafe or?
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Post by: Too shy on March 13, 2012, 12:15 AM
In replying to Brian, I must emphasise that these dramatic changes to our "public house history and culture" aren't just happening in the relatively hum drum backwaters like Ashton. I happened to be in Manchester city centre earlier today and noticed on Blackfriars Street (leads down towards one of the bridges over the River Irwell and then on to Salford at the cathedral end of Deansgate) that a former pub, The Crown (complete with impressive green tile frontage), is now being gutted in readiness for its next life as a nails (and whatever else ladies do in these places) salon. If we are now erasing a massive part of our history then perhaps the warning came from Uncle Bob when he was informing us in the Sixties about "The Times They Are A-Changing."

PS Seemingly, a Grade Two listed building as well.
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Post by: Jayess on March 13, 2012, 01:57 AM
Greeny -- Where was the Hooley Hill pub situated-- The reason I ask is that my Great Grandmother was married to the Publican ( John William Richardson) who ran a pub on Hooley Hill. It was situated on the right coming from Audenshaw just after the river Tame which I think crossed there. I am going back to when  I used to visit my grandmother in Rowley Street as it was named then  & that would have been at least 80 yrs ago. --Jayess
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Post by: herby on March 13, 2012, 02:52 AM
Hi
      Is the Shambles still in Manchester. I remember there was a big hole all the way around it and it was stinding on an island in the middle that would of been in the fifties.   herby
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Post by: Fudge on March 13, 2012, 10:29 AM
Herby The Shambles is still there but it as been moved twice not far of the Cathedral now. If you put Shambles Pub Manchester in google it will come up tells you each time it was moved. Fudge
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Post by: greeny on March 13, 2012, 11:33 AM
hi jayass the hooley hill pub is on right comming from audenshaw , it changed its name a few times it was called the mechanics arms before the hooley hill , brian, like too shy says its not only ashton that these pubs are closing its nationwide ,yes herby the shambles is still there along with sinclairs oyster bar  :)
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Post by: Jayess on March 14, 2012, 05:07 AM
Hi Greeny --Thanks for that info --It helps me a lot in Explaining & sorting out a few things for my Genealogy . --Jayess
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Post by: chrisandangie on March 14, 2012, 04:07 PM
Sinclairs Oyster bar is our idea of Heaven, random cider that blows your head off, we always head there if we are in town. Sat outside there on a sunny day is as good as any beach, the people watching is fantastic  ;D
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Post by: greeny on March 18, 2012, 02:31 PM
hi a good night in the crowthorn last night , the tony auton band , packed out out good night  :)
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Post by: heather on March 26, 2012, 06:44 PM
I see that the Halfway House on Whiteacre Road has now got an auction sign up.

Heather
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Post by: heather on April 05, 2012, 09:56 PM
Went down Guide Lane today and the Junction has been demolished ready for the houses to be built.
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Post by: Ashtonian54 on April 05, 2012, 10:37 PM
Went down Guide Lane today and the Junction has been demolished ready for the houses to be built.

I was last there in 1983

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Post by: Martin on April 06, 2012, 10:38 AM

I was last there in 1983

http://is.gd/g4wtW3 (http://is.gd/g4wtW3)

I followed that link, Ian, and saw the pub, but I couldn't see you there! :)
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Post by: Ashtonian54 on April 06, 2012, 05:09 PM
It's when I was living with Olga (my partner then ) on South Street.
Within months I was living in So. California. Women eh?

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Post by: Jayess on April 07, 2012, 01:43 AM
My last drink in the Junction at Guide bridge was with a few workmates in January 1958 just a few days before I boarded the S.S Orontes for a nearly 6 week voyage to Aussie with my Wife & Daughter--  Jayess
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Post by: greeny on April 11, 2012, 11:16 AM
hi i see the crowthorn as free live music on again this saturday 14 april a live band the http://www.thearmadillos.co.uk/biography_of_the_band06.htm  should be a good night
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Post by: greeny on April 20, 2012, 05:40 PM
hi if you like punk music there another free band on at the crowthorn this saturday 21 april they are called scunk muffins  :D
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Post by: Vanessa on April 21, 2012, 07:53 PM
I see someone has put in a planning application to convert The Hop Pole to offices.

Vanessa
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Post by: greeny on May 20, 2012, 02:07 PM
hi  does anyone know if there was any coaching houses in or around ashton  :)
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Post by: Martin on May 20, 2012, 03:03 PM
hi  does anyone know if there was any coaching houses in or around ashton  :)

The Bull's Head in Mossley (where the fire station now is).

The Commercial Inn, Manchester Road, Mossley.
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Post by: greeny on May 20, 2012, 05:04 PM
hi thanks for that martin ,were they any in ashton ?
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Post by: Martin on May 20, 2012, 06:32 PM
I haven't been able to think of any. They would have had to have been on one of the turnpike routes between Manchester and Yorkshire. I was thinking of maybe the Globe (Witchwood) but The Book doesn't mention anything about it.

I suspect that any pub in Ashton that was a coaching Inn would have been re-built in Victorian times. Many of the old pubs on Old Street were.
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Post by: Fudge on May 23, 2012, 09:19 AM
If you fancy running a pub there are to be 3 up for viewing this Sat 10am 12noon.
Dog and Partridge Oldham Road Ashton.  Jolly Carter Clarendon Place Hyde and the Lamb Inn Stockport Road Hyde got a leaflet pushed through my door, Fudge
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Post by: Vanessa on June 12, 2012, 03:23 PM
The Wellington is now a Tesco Express

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Post by: Ashtonian54 on June 13, 2012, 12:17 AM
Flippin' 'eck
That was quick!
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Post by: Martin on June 13, 2012, 10:16 AM
I think that's rather neatly done, so that the character of the building has been retained to some extent.
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Post by: Vanessa on June 13, 2012, 12:36 PM
Yeah, I thought the same, they've done a good job.

Vanessa
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Post by: heather on June 16, 2012, 09:13 AM
Had a leaflet through the door asking if I fancied running The Beau Geste on Katherine Street or The Peaks on Gorsey Lane.
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Post by: Fudge on June 16, 2012, 10:01 AM
Yes So have I its the 2nd one I have recieved now. The other week it was for the Dog on Oldham Rd and two in Hyde did not go. Fudge
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Post by: charter on June 26, 2012, 10:15 AM
Herby --You are right it was called " Help the poor Struggler"  & behind the Bar was a few ropes on display & I believe another Hangsman managed a pub called "Live & let Live" but I cannot remember where that one was. Jayess
Help the Poor Struggler was demolished in the late 90s it was on the site of what is now the beginning of the sliproad for the M60 on Manchester Road Hollinwood

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Post by: Ashtonian54 on July 01, 2012, 01:04 AM
Where's the brass rail?
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Post by: HarryM on August 06, 2012, 12:16 PM
Does anyone remember The Castle Inn down off St Michael's Square? Was it Scotland Street. There was another pub on the same road, The Church. The Castle used to serve Double Diamond. We used to meet there first then go 'round town. to the Angel, which was bit rough, the The Wagon, Pitt & Nelson etc.

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Post by: Fudge on August 06, 2012, 04:39 PM
I never went in but my Gr gr Granddad was Land Lord there on the 1841 census Fudge
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Post by: Albert on August 06, 2012, 06:45 PM
Was the pub at the bottom of Scotland st called the Blue Bell ?
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Post by: herby on August 07, 2012, 10:34 AM
Hi Albert
                 Yes My brother hads his wedding there in 1952. There were three pubs on Scotland st top one was the Church inn. Next the Castle and blue bell at the bottom.  herby
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Post by: Too shy on August 07, 2012, 11:04 PM
Hi Albert
                 Yes My brother hads his wedding there in 1952. There were three pubs on Scotland st top one was the Church inn. Next the Castle and blue bell at the bottom.  herby

You're spot on with the names of the three pubs, Herby, although my research shows that there were even more public houses (the Royal Oak, Bulls Head and Painters Arms were all demolished in the Victorian period) at one time in that part of Ashton - clearly the most ancient part of the borough.

As for HarryM's original enquiry about the Castle Inn, it was situated at the top end of Scotland Street at number 34. It had previously been the Hare and Hounds, the Crown and Anchor, the Rose and Crown and (as if that wasn't enough) the Wellington. It closed some time after 1950.

Four doors higher up was the Old Church at number 42. Believe it or not, it had previously been called the CASTLE INN and then became the Commercial, then the Auld Lang Syne before finally becoming the Old Church. It served its last pint in January 1971.

The only one of this trio that I can recall was the Blue Bell which stood at the bottom of Scotland Street at number 10, at its junction with Bedford Street. There seems to have been a hostelry of some sort or another on that site for a considerable time before the last building was erected in 1883. It closed some time after 1953. The building, an imposing structure which faced traffic coming up the street from Dukinfield, however, survived for about another twenty years as the base for a transport company, WT Noble and Sons. The building was eventually demolished to make way for the "Telephone Exchange" roundabout.
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Post by: Martin on August 08, 2012, 09:26 AM
The map reminds me of a tale I heard some years ago.

There was a dense fog of the type that were common in those days. A lorry, crawling slowly from the direction of Dukinfield, stopped at the bottom of Scotland Street. The driver leaned out of the window and called out to a fellow standing outside the Blue Bell: "Where am I?"

Fellow outside Blue Bell calls back: "Tha's just coming up Scotland!"

"Bloody 'ell," replies the lorry driver, "I'm only supposed to be going to Barnsley!"
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Post by: herby on August 08, 2012, 10:21 AM
Hi Too shy
                   The building you are talking about was The Model Lodging house it stood between the Castle and a spare ground then the Blue bell and was demolished while I was still a kid long before 1952 they were all on the left hand side going towards Dukky.I can't remember any pubs on the other side of the road there was a showroom at the corner of Stamford st then the church wall and a little street that went up to the labour exchange then further down  one shop then a stone wall till the railway bridge I don't know if Scotland st carried on after the bridge if it did there was a John Smiths house. Can't remember the name of the pub,  I dont know where they put the other pubs maybe on the spare grounds between the Bluebell and the lodging house and the gap between the Castle and the Chuch inn ..   herby 
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Post by: heather on August 12, 2012, 05:20 PM
I have read in the Reporter that the Halfway House on Whiteacre Road has applied for an alcohol and entertainment license.

Heather
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Post by: Too shy on August 12, 2012, 07:57 PM
Hi Too shy
                   The building you are talking about was The Model Lodging house it stood between the Castle and a spare ground then the Blue bell and was demolished while I was still a kid long before 1952 they were all on the left hand side going towards Dukky.I can't remember any pubs on the other side of the road there was a showroom at the corner of Stamford st then the church wall and a little street that went up to the labour exchange then further down  one shop then a stone wall till the railway bridge I don't know if Scotland st carried on after the bridge if it did there was a John Smiths house. Can't remember the name of the pub,  I dont know where they put the other pubs maybe on the spare grounds between the Bluebell and the lodging house and the gap between the Castle and the Chuch inn ..   herby

The "showroom at the corner of Stamford Street" that you refer to, Herby, was the car showroom of motor dealers (William?) Monks which faced into St Michael's Aquare. . They were there as far back as I can remember (late forties early fifties) I seem to recall that they were the local main dealers for a British maker. I think it might have been Austin/Morris but I've also got Jaguar in my head as well. They eventually transferred to premises at the bottom end of Oldham Road (corner of Boodle Street?) but have since departed. The Stamford Street showroom was latterly occupied by a bathrooms/kitchens(?) concern.
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Post by: KENNETHO on August 12, 2012, 10:24 PM
i met one of the monks boys a few years ago over here i think he was living near hamilton ontario with his family at that time..kennetho
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Post by: aflagonofale on August 13, 2012, 05:47 PM
Hi
   The pub on Park Parade was the the Park Hotel and it wasn't the seven stars it was the seven sisters louis monks was the landlord and he kept pigs on the cut almost opposite his pub I lived round the corner on Church st                              herby



Hello to the good folks of Ashton and thank you for allowing me onto your site. I only came across the site while doing a little research.  I collect old Victorian and Edwardian bottles (yep sad, but someone has to:) and have recently acquired an old pub flask / spirit flask for the Park Hotel  Ashton-under- Lyne.  For anyone unaware, in Victorian times, many pubs had their own small bottles and at the end of the evening, you could purchase one to take home, with your favourite spirit in it.  I assume there was some kind of deposit on the bottle to get you to return it.

Anyway, I thought some of your members, especially the contributors to this thread, may like to see a small piece of Ashton's pub history. I have managed to find out via another thread on your site, that T. Platt, the landlord / innkeeper on the bottle, had the Brunswick Inn between 1888 - 1895, but he must have also had the Park Hotel at some time too.

The flask is what we bottle collectors refer to as a Pumpkin shape, made of soda glass (green tint) and very probably dates between 1875 - 1910.

I hope you can see the embossing on the glass OK. (Sorry, no pic attached. I think admin has to grant me permission)

Kind regards

aflagonofale
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Post by: HarryM on August 13, 2012, 06:01 PM
I never went in but my Gr gr Granddad was Land Lord there on the 1841 census Fudge

I was still under the legal drinking age then!
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Post by: HarryM on August 13, 2012, 06:02 PM
Thanks Bill for the photos and there is one of the Castle Inn. Doesn't look very glamorous! But times have changed.
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Post by: HarryM on August 13, 2012, 06:09 PM
Hi Albert
                 Yes My brother hads his wedding there in 1952. There were three pubs on Scotland st top one was the Church inn. Next the Castle and blue bell at the bottom.  herby

You're spot on with the names of the three pubs, Herby, although my research shows that there were even more public houses (the Royal Oak, Bulls Head and Painters Arms were all demolished in the Victorian period) at one time in that part of Ashton - clearly the most ancient part of the borough.

As for HarryM's original enquiry about the Castle Inn, it was situated at the top end of Scotland Street at number 34. It had previously been the Hare and Hounds, the Crown and Anchor, the Rose and Crown and (as if that wasn't enough) the Wellington. It closed some time after 1950.

Four doors higher up was the Old Church at number 42. Believe it or not, it had previously been called the CASTLE INN and then became the Commercial, then the Auld Lang Syne before finally becoming the Old Church. It served its last pint in January 1971.

The only one of this trio that I can recall was the Blue Bell which stood at the bottom of Scotland Street at number 10, at its junction with Bedford Street. There seems to have been a hostelry of some sort or another on that site for a considerable time before the last building was erected in 1883. It closed some time after 1953. The building, an imposing structure which faced traffic coming up the street from Dukinfield, however, survived for about another twenty years as the base for a transport company, WT Noble and Sons. The building was eventually demolished to make way for the "Telephone Exchange" roundabout.

I was going in the Castle in the early 1960s so it was still open then. I think it closed just before they built the roundabout etc.
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Post by: aflagonofale on August 14, 2012, 07:41 PM
Hello aflagonofale,

According to the book of words on Ashton pubs (by Rob Magee) this is the entry on the Park Hotel (20 Park Parade)...


"Fully licensed house first recorded as the RISING SUN in 1823. It stood on the west corner of Delamere Street. When Henry Bowker took over in 1848 he changed the name to the PUNCH BOWL, then in 1860 William Lupton called it the Park Hotel.

The pub may have been rebuilt around this time, as neither name appears in the 1858 directory. Thomas Thomason was the owner from 1861 until at least 1879. Roger A Gartside owned the Park by 1888, and he may have been linked with the brewing family, as John Gartside of the Brookside Brewery took over in 1891.

In the 1950s the brewery and the licensing magistrates agreed to close the Park and transfer its licence to the Haddon Hall Hotel, Droylsden. The licence of the Free Trade beerhouse on Booth Street was also surrendered as part of the deal. The Park Hotel closed in 1957."


Thomas Platt was the landlord from 1883 to 1884.

For herby, Louis Monks was the landlord between 1945 and 1954.

Hi Bill  -  Thank you very much for the info and the research, much appreciated. So my little bottle is something like 128 years old. It's done well to survive so long.  Thanks again. aflagonofale

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Post by: KENNETHO on August 14, 2012, 08:02 PM
have you tride rubbing the bottle you might get a genie popping out.?? cheers kenntho
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Post by: greeny on August 25, 2012, 02:39 PM
hi i see the church inn hurst cross and the canterbury are still standing but not as pubs, but the best one shops , the day of the pubs have gone,went by the other day they have a lot of memories for me, its sad to say they are no longer watering holes  :)
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Post by: chrisandangie on August 25, 2012, 06:01 PM
It's all down to simple mathematics Greeny, I can buy 4 pint cans of Strongbow for 5 , or go to most pubs in Ashton, and pay nearly 4 a pint  >:(    I love my wife, and enjoy her company, so there really is no need to go out .   I can't knock pubs though, or else I wouldn't get to do my DJ'ing, I have a gig tonight  ;D 
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Post by: greeny on September 24, 2012, 11:26 AM
hi i see david traynor spirit medium is on at the broadoak hotel on wednesday 26 september 2012 it will cost you 15 on the door and 14 on line he must be good for that price  :)
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Post by: chrisandangie on September 24, 2012, 05:40 PM
It's our nearest pub, but never go in it, it's full of ten bob millionaires  ;D
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Post by: Kiwi on September 25, 2012, 03:57 AM
I heard you had to be well heeled to drink beer at the Broadoak but didn't know the spirits were as dear as that.


Am I the only one who saw straight through that one ?.


Spooky  8)
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Post by: Bill on September 25, 2012, 07:43 AM
No, I think the medium saw through it next week.
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Post by: Dannyx6 on September 25, 2012, 08:09 AM
And I thought it brilliant and on the magic ball!
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Post by: greeny on September 25, 2012, 10:47 AM
hi i believe they got david traynor because its been dead lately in the broadoak  ;D
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Post by: Martin on September 25, 2012, 12:45 PM
hi i believe they got david traynor because its been dead lately in the broadoak  ;D

Is he going to call up the spirit of the pub?
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Post by: Fudge on September 25, 2012, 04:28 PM
He goes on a regular basis to the Broadoak. He only use to charge 10 must  have gone up with inflation. I went a couple of times about 3 years ago. I remember a family who were going on holiday and to kill some time came in they were taking the mick and he zoomed in on one of them and revealed quite a bit to them after that they went very quite. So as you see it is a ongoing practice and it as always been full so. Fudge
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Post by: greeny on September 29, 2012, 11:58 AM
hi i wonder if they were ten bob spirits in broadoak  ;D
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Post by: greeny on November 26, 2012, 12:42 PM
hi went by the hooley hill audenshaw last week i see its now closed as a pub and is a shop . and the junction at gude bridge the new flats are on there way up , still no end to the closers we will be lucky to see a local pub in another 20 years,i noticed the one opposite the angel as opened again , but i bet it will be closed again after the christmas season   :)
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Post by: jaywit on November 26, 2012, 02:13 PM
Don't know if it's an Ashton thing, but on my recent 24 day, 1500 mile visit,there didn't seem to be any shortage reasonably good pubs every where else?????
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Post by: greeny on November 29, 2012, 07:10 PM
hi there are a lot of supermarkets round ashton people take the cheaper option , not only are they killing the pubs but the high streeet shops are also taking there toll
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Post by: greeny on July 28, 2013, 12:07 PM
hi went by the crowthorn last night , sorry to see it closed again it was a great little pub
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Post by: greeny on August 21, 2013, 01:11 PM
hi bill i like the new posh windows at the star inn :)
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Post by: heather on September 04, 2013, 08:15 AM
The renovations at the Oxford on Stockport Road are well under way. Should be reopening soon.
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Post by: greeny on October 06, 2013, 05:09 PM
hi another pub bites the dust the guzzling goose [once the happy shepherd ] now a mini super market  :(
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Post by: gina44 on October 06, 2013, 10:34 PM
My brother used to live near the Happy Shepard, it was his local lol. Its a shame a lot of the pubs are going.
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Post by: greeny on October 27, 2013, 02:04 PM
hi went by the crowthorn pub the other night its good to see it opened again ,i hope it does well  :)
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Post by: Fudge on October 27, 2013, 07:12 PM
The Red House is being turned in to about 7 bedroom house another bites the dust xx
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Post by: greeny on November 10, 2013, 05:28 PM
hi it must be a record the crowthorn is now shut again it was opened for just over two weeks people near the pub did not get a chance to go in as it was not advertised i hope it opens again with someone  that will make a go of it , and not turned into a super market  ;D
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Post by: Bill on November 12, 2013, 06:23 PM
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Post by: Bill on November 13, 2013, 12:02 PM
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Post by: jaywit on November 13, 2013, 01:29 PM
Last 2 years we have stayed there for 10 days each time.
Cannot be faulted, unless one wants to nitpick.
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Post by: Fudge on November 13, 2013, 04:42 PM
I have always had a nice meal there never found the need to complain Fudge
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Post by: chrisandangie on November 14, 2013, 12:14 PM
New paved patio and signs, just modernised it a bit, I like it, still won't go in though ! I will never be a ten bob millionaire  :D
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Post by: Vanessa on November 14, 2013, 02:13 PM
Used to go in the Broadoak a lot in the early 70's, it had a great atmosphere.
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Post by: jaywit on November 15, 2013, 06:57 PM
The Globe(Whychwood) was ours early 60's
Wednesday night especially(live music!!)
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Post by: greeny on November 16, 2013, 04:25 PM
hi thanks for the photo bill , the good news the crowthorn hotel is opening the 18 november 2013 hope it does well a good local pub :) :) :)
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Post by: greeny on December 03, 2013, 05:05 PM
hi went in the crowthorn the other week we had a good night there was singer on playing and singing  old and new favourites , and a  good atmosphere  :) good  pint  :)
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Post by: greeny on February 13, 2014, 03:39 PM
hi more live music at the crowthorn this weekend a band called the cheapskates , i am glad its up and running again  :)
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Post by: greeny on May 06, 2014, 03:03 PM
hi do you think your local pub should be use more as a social club for the community , we know that you have your pub food places, but there are are a lot of pubs in ashton and distict that dont cater for food , so the pubs are empty the tap room in these local pubs have there die hard customers , but the lounge area are empty with nothing going on what would be your idea for the use, to get people back in like keep fit classes , table tennis , free and easy nights what would your choice be :)
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Post by: brian seward on May 07, 2014, 05:45 AM
Talking about the pubs on Scotland St, brought to mind that I went to school with a boy named Bryan Downing who lived in one of the Pubs down there .  Cannot recall which it was as I was about 12/13 at the time (app,1939), and I do not see the name of a Publican of that name in the good book!..
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Post by: herby on May 11, 2014, 09:33 PM
Hi
            It was the Castle    My Mum used to work there.   herby
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Post by: brian seward on May 12, 2014, 04:07 AM
Thanks Herb, In that period the owner was Hilda Neild . Maybe Bryan's dad was the Manager, By the way, today, Sunday is Mothers Day  over here .. So happy Mom's day to all viewers
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Post by: greeny on June 09, 2014, 09:00 PM
hi went by the friendship pub on old street is it opening as a pub ? a lot of work going on new roof  windows etc , i did not realise how big it is looking up at it , i have heard nothing on the  grape vine so it could be anything when it re opens  :)
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Post by: greeny on July 19, 2014, 02:32 PM
hi went by the crowthorn pub the other night sad to see it closed again , we went up oldham road the other day towards oldham there were a few pubs up that way closed and i see tesco have opened one as a store  :) near bardley brew  :)
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Post by: brian seward on July 29, 2014, 05:32 AM
Reading about all the pubs closings reminds me to cheer the Mossley Rd Trio The New Inn, Cottage Tavern and the Miner's, Long may they reign. What say you "Jayess"?
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Post by: KENNETHO on July 30, 2014, 05:18 PM
I can never recall witch side of the road they were located?? cheers kennetho
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Post by: brian seward on July 30, 2014, 10:37 PM
Ken,  New Inn corner of Princess St and Mossley Rd.  Opposite is the Cottage Tavern and a few yards up is the miner's at the corner of Montague Rd.
Iv'e had a few gallons in all of them, Mind you, that was when Beer was less than shilling a pint!!.
How much is it now? here in Western Canada it is $5 in our local Canadian Legion. Scotch  Gin, Vodka   is $6 and up!.

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Post by: KENNETHO on July 31, 2014, 04:28 AM
thanks brian I never used any of them the only time I had a gill was on sat. night bwhen we went dancing I never had a pint it was always halves in smmer I liked a shandyi cheers kennetho
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Post by: greeny on August 09, 2014, 02:16 PM
hi they were emptying the barrels from the cellar the other day when i past looks like it could be the end of the line as a pub http://uk.businessesforsale.com/uk/Crowthorn-Public-House-In-Ashton-Under-Lyne-For-Sale.aspx  ;D
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Post by: greeny on September 11, 2014, 12:03 PM
hi went by the irish club on wellington road , it was a hive of activity but it wont be a club or a pub it is opening as a shop , they are all going one by one  :(
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Post by: greeny on September 22, 2014, 11:24 AM
hi i went to daisy nook the other day went over the moss i was shocked to see the march hare on crowhill road      closed and boarded up and the wood cock on new market road still closed and boarded up no end to pub closures  :(
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Post by: greeny on October 19, 2014, 01:21 PM
hi i see the conservative club on the park parade by pass as closed and now a print firm  :(
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Post by: sooty on October 19, 2014, 06:48 PM
Maybe easy to say which pubs are still open rather than closed
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Post by: Too shy on October 19, 2014, 07:45 PM
hi i see the conservative club on the park parade by pass as closed and now a print firm  :(

I had to study your posting for a few times, Greeny, trying to work out where this place was on Park Parade. The best I could come up with was the Conservative Club on Stamford Street (known as the "Central" Conservative Club, I believe). Then, the penny dropped that you were probably referring to West End Conservative Club - down at the back of the old baths (albeit on the other side of the bypass from the baths). I think this "new" building replaced the original club which probably needed to be demolished to enable the bypass to be built about 1960s/1970s when that end of Ashton was blitzed more efficiently than if the Luftwaffe had been asked to do it. More recently, the "new" club had been used as the venue for regular sessions by the Blood Doning Service. Last time I was in there, it looked like the place was on borrowed time - which clearly proved to be the case.
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Post by: herby on October 20, 2014, 11:05 AM
Hi
            Park Parade finished at Booth St. After that it was Park St
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Post by: Martin on October 20, 2014, 11:23 PM
Hi
            Park Parade finished at Booth St. After that it was Park St

The name 'Park Parade' has now been given to the bypass all the way from Scotland Street to Chester Square.
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Post by: ayess on October 27, 2014, 06:01 AM
Mention of Park Parade brought back memories. After the boy's department of the Modern School closed in 1944 I followed Mr Whitehead (headmaster) to Stamford Senior Boy's. Living in the West End I got the job of taking the filing box of student record cards each Friday to the Education Office in Warrington Street (next to the Stamford Estate office). I used to then walk down Warrington Street to Park Parade, have a look in the Park Parade station yard, they used to unload bren-gun carriers and tanks there at times. If nothing was doing I would then walk along Park Parade looking out over the valley to Dukinfield and beyond then down to steps to Lower Wharf Street and along to Cavendish Street and then the length of Hill Street. We lived in the last part between Portland and Welbeck Streets. Happy Days!    Ayess.
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Post by: jaywit on October 27, 2014, 01:39 PM
Very interesting Ayess,it almost mirrors my earlier days.Mr Whitehead was my Headmaster at Stamford.He lived at the house below Broadoak School and when he was driving to school in his car(an old Ford I think) I would be waiting for the bus and would get a lift.He used to have juggle the choke to keep the car running,smell of petrol almost overwhelming.
I also used to take the attendance records on Fridays to the Education Office for Holy Trinity.
A long oak box with a brass handle if my memory serves me right.
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Post by: ayess on October 28, 2014, 04:46 AM
Correct, Jaywit, with a leather strap for a handle. I used to get out of the last lesson on Friday afternoon to go around to check that all the teachers had returned their cards. Whilst Mr Whitehead was our Headmaster at the Modern School he was also the Chief  Air raid Warden for Ashton so we did not see too much of him. When my step father, who had been in the Canadian army in WW I, saw his name with MA MC, Master of Arts, Military Cross, appended to it he said to me, "Look to this fellow for leadership. The first proves he knows something, the second didn't come up with the rations, that one you had to earn". I always took Pop's advice, well almost always, in this case I did, which was why I did the trail from the west end of Hill Street up to Stamford and back twice a day.It didn't do me any harm. Keep well.   Ayess
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Post by: greeny on December 18, 2014, 12:56 PM
hi my local pub as now been shut since july i will miss it this christmas and new year, it was local and handy i just wondering if any of you ashtonians know of a good family pub with a mixed age group and not to far out of the ashton boundry this is the time of the year when you do miss your local , i might try the snipe its been going for some years now  :)
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Post by: Bill on December 19, 2014, 01:13 AM
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Post by: Too shy on December 19, 2014, 01:47 AM
Not exactly a solution to your quest, Greeny, but I couldn't help noticing, today, the sheer volume of pubs that have gone to the wall in the last few years in our part of the world. I drove down Zetland Street in Dukinfield and rounded the corner into Astley Street - The Newboro' is now a supermarket. I pulled up, near the Gardeners Arms, on the bottom end of Astley Street - now boarded up. Along King Street, in the direction of Hyde, and the Newmarket Tavern was converted to residential use some years back. At the White Bridge, take Birch Lane up to Cheetham Hill Road then pass what was The Liston - now a supermarket. Down into Stalybridge then up through Millbrook and passing the boarded up Commercial followed by the Church Inn - now residential use. The Buckton Castle at Carrbrook - yet again, now a supermarket (strangely enough, the same owners as what was the Newboro and The Liston). If you want a local, Greeny, you'd best get your skates on before they all disappear. Now, supermarkets, that's another matter, we can fix you up with at least half a dozen.
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Post by: herby on December 19, 2014, 11:52 AM
Hi
      Is the Station hotel on Warrington street still open that was my local and a good pub when Billy Smith was the landlord and the Ashetteton Arms was good too.That was a while ago though    herby
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Post by: KENNETHO on December 19, 2014, 02:30 PM
ashetton  arms  also had a decent football team in the late 1940 s has the pub gone now?? cheers kennetho
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Post by: Vanessa on December 19, 2014, 10:57 PM
The Station pub is still open.
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Post by: jaywit on December 20, 2014, 02:53 PM
On recent visits
to Ashton The Caledonia put a good meal on,as for pub,a few wander in on the way home from work for a drink.What it's like later (after 8,00 I can't say)to me it seemed not worth opening for.Busy and slow nights at the Broadoak.Peg;s Lantern was my local,now I wouldn't cross the road to go there,The Nook, Red House,Peaks,as for The March Hare? Seems to be dying trend,pubs that is.
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Post by: jaywit on December 20, 2014, 04:37 PM
The Station pub is still open.
It was full of emptiness one Monday night around 7.30
Would that be too early for the crowds?
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Post by: Vanessa on December 20, 2014, 09:09 PM
It seems to have taken over from the Spread Eagle as the local biker pub.
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Post by: jaywit on December 22, 2014, 03:08 PM
My mistake, too long away from Ashton.
The pub I was referring to was The Engine.(Fire Station)?????
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Post by: greeny on January 18, 2015, 02:46 PM
hi went by the crowthorn pub the other day it looks like work is about to begin , i can not see it being open as a pub again , they have knocked part of the fence around the beer garden , the garden as been ripped up as it was a listed building , planing permission must have been given now we will have to wait and see what next , i hope the post box will remain as it is handy for local people  :( just to let you see what a good pub it was   https://www.facebook.com/TheCrowthornPub
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Post by: greeny on March 25, 2015, 04:15 PM
hi went by the march hare on the moss still closed , then on to newmarket road the woodcock is now in the middle of demolition , one more gone never to be a pub again . :(
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Post by: Ashtonian54 on April 18, 2015, 03:41 AM
Woodcock will be flats. March Hare demolished
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Post by: greeny on April 21, 2015, 10:50 AM
hi went by ashton moss the march hare is now flat no trace of a pub , and the woodcock is just a shell no roof , and work is going on where the  club near to richmond street and knowle avenue thats been closed for years is all fenced off along with the scout hut  next to it
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Post by: Bill on June 07, 2015, 12:44 AM
Live music in the Beau Geste tonight.

SCORCHING!

These are they. (http://eden2015.wix.com/eden#!about/c10fk)
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Post by: Son of Nomad on June 07, 2015, 11:36 AM
Didn't there used to be a bowling green near The March Hare or is my memory playing tricks?
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Post by: Martin on June 14, 2015, 06:52 PM
There was a bowling green at the back of the Gardener's Arms.
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Post by: Vanessa on June 14, 2015, 08:10 PM
There were two bowling greens on Crowhill, one where the March Hare was and one off Knowle Avenue near the Richmond Club which used to be called The Bowling Club. The club house next to the March Hare lasted a long time, it was were you used to go the vote. The area of the bowling green off Knowle Avenue is still there, though I suspect they will build on it very soon.
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Post by: Son of Nomad on June 19, 2015, 09:35 AM
Thanks for your replies Vanessa and Martin - I thought I had seen a bowling green on Crowhill when cycling through but it's a long time ago now. I had heard there was one behind the Gardner's Arms though I never saw it (nor even went in the pub). I wish I had now!
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Post by: greeny on June 22, 2015, 01:30 PM
hi went by the snipe pub on manchester road it was closed and there was scaffolding on the sides of the building ,also it  looked like alterations were taking place inside , i hope it keeps open as a pub  :)
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Post by: Artmak on July 01, 2015, 08:33 PM
Hi Greeny
I used to go in the Globe in the 60's, do you remember the waiter, Bob Richardson, he was super and could take two orders at once and never made a mistake.  I used to go in the Queens on George Street and it was a bit rough but they had good live groups on and I hired one in 1964 for my wedding reception, they charged us 10 lol. We had our reception at the Theater and Concert Tavern on Oldham Road, where the baths is now.
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Post by: Bill on July 05, 2015, 01:03 AM
Had a swift one in the Waterhouse tonight (used to be Pegs, on the Hartshead estate).  The prices have slumped from those shown on their web site and the singer was great.  Worth a visit.
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Post by: Albert on July 05, 2015, 11:29 AM
Hi Bill welcome back with message Albert
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Post by: Bill on July 05, 2015, 11:54 AM
Hello Albert.

It was just a few words about one of a dying breed, at least in Ashton, which needs all the support it can get.
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Post by: Too shy on July 05, 2015, 12:10 PM
Had a swift one in the Waterhouse tonight (used to be Pegs, on the Hartshead estate).  The prices have slumped from those shown on their web site and the singer was great.  Worth a visit.

Any idea why the name change came about, Bill? I know the original name was meant to remember the old hag (Peg) who was said to mooch around carrying her lantern on wet and windy nights on the old Ashton Moss - but why Waterhouse?
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Post by: Bill on July 05, 2015, 12:35 PM
Sorry Too shy, I can't help you with that one.
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Post by: jaywit on July 08, 2015, 06:29 PM
I lived  a 100 yds from Pegs,seem to think I had a pint or 2 soon after opening.I was on Carlisle Crescent 1967 -77
It never was a real success
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Post by: greeny on July 18, 2015, 03:41 PM
hi artmak  the globe [witchwood] i remember a waiter that was good but forgot his name he always remembered  your order even over the sound of the groups , but i remember that nearly all the pubs round ashton had waiters even the off town centre ones , the half way house was my local for a good few years had waiters on at weekend they earned there money it was a good little earner with the tips they use get and it saved all that shoving at the bar ,i think they should bring  back the waiters :) and the latest on the snipe pub manchester road  http://www.thesnipe.robinsonsbrewery.com/
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Post by: herby on July 28, 2015, 08:40 AM
Hi
       Waterhouses used to be a big market garden on the moss. I help to build a few bases for glass houses they had there. There was a little pub near there too, we used to have a couple of beers with our lunch.    herby
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Post by: greeny on October 18, 2015, 02:41 PM
hi i see another pub as closed the ring o bells, if they keep closing as they are they will just be a memory , a lot pubs that have closed are still standing and you can picture them as they once were , but a good few that have closed have gone and you would never have guessed a pub had once stood there as part of the community   :'(
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Post by: greeny on December 09, 2015, 12:11 PM
hi went by the crowthorn pub the other day it still not been turned into flats yet it must be the longest    renovation work going ,they could have pulled it down and built new property , the pub signes are still up  so it might do a full circle and re open as what it was built for i hope  :)
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Post by: greeny on May 18, 2016, 10:12 AM
hi the crowthorn pub is no longer , the signs  have all gone the , but the flats are still not finished yet what a waste   :(  now its  just a memory   :(
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Post by: greeny on August 30, 2016, 10:57 AM
hi went over ashton moss the other day i see  where the march hare pub was as now got houses there almost finished also the corner of richmond street and knowle avenue where the club was and the scout hut  houses there nearly built ,also the ring o bell might be comming down for a car park  :)
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Post by: Son of Nomad on August 30, 2016, 01:15 PM
Years ago I used to park up on that land by the hut when I was photographing the trains passing Ashton Moss North Junction. Is nothing sacred?
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Post by: greeny on July 23, 2017, 10:23 AM
hi the crowthorn  pub is now finished and they have opened as flats ,also passed the ring o bells looks like work is going on ? or they are pulling it down ?and the wood cock on newmarket road work is still going on i don't think it will be a pub any more , along with the swan at cock brook doors still shut  :(