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General Category => Memory Lane => Topic started by: Vanessa on September 15, 2009, 10:12 PM

Title: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: Vanessa on September 15, 2009, 10:12 PM
I don't normally look at the bus postcards on eBay, but this brought back memories. A great shot of the No7 Crowhill bus outside Ashton Market, the description says it was withdrawn in 1963, I must have travelled on it with my mum.

http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Bus-Photo-Ashton-under-Lyne-Guy-Arab-No-FTE-885_W0QQitemZ140345395891QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Collectables_Bus_CoachCollectables_SM?hash=item20ad3ccab3&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

Vanessa
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: Kiwi on September 15, 2009, 11:00 PM
It's fascinating what comes up if you do a search for 'Ashton Under Lyne' on Flea-bay. ;)
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: Martin on September 16, 2009, 12:07 AM
And, of course, the old No 7 route from Crowhill to Ashton, Hurst Cross and Hazelhurst became the 337.

For the benefit of those who have moved away, these days the 337 (http://"http://www.bing.com/maps/default.aspx?v=2&FORM=LMLTCP&cp=sxdtb2gtrdy7&style=o&lvl=2&tilt=-90&dir=0&alt=-1000&scene=30835854&phx=0&phy=0&phscl=1&encType=1") only runs between Crowhill and Ashton, although it also goes to the Leech Homes estate at the end of Richmond Street but misses out Katherine Street. The Hazelhurst part is covered by the 38/39 Circular (http://"http://www.gmpte.com/upload/routemaps/38_39_26984.pdf") which goes via Kings Road one way or Palace Road the other way.
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: GayJ on September 16, 2009, 12:40 AM
Yay! Thanks Vanessa, that's my Bus - I lived on Crowhill.  Really good to remember where its stop was next to the Market.
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: burlington on September 16, 2009, 08:55 AM
I remember the No. 7 stopping and turning round at a wooden shelter opposite Weymouth House where King's Road splits and goes up an non metalled road(in the past to the former Golf Club House) just before Rosehill Road as you come up King's Road from the Cross. The fare was a princely one old penny circa 1960. Going upstairs was an adventure if you didn't almost choke to death with the smoke!
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: Denise on September 16, 2009, 06:18 PM
I remember the No. 7 stopping and turning round at a wooden shelter opposite Weymouth House where King's Road splits and goes up an non metalled road(in the past to the former Golf Club House) just before Rosehill Road as you come up King's Road from the Cross. The fare was a princely one old penny circa 1960. Going upstairs was an adventure if you didn't almost choke to death with the smoke!

Burlington -  At that fork, it's Weymouth Rd to the right, and the continuation of Kings Rd to the left, up the unadopted dirt track. Didn't know the Hazlehurst bus numbers had changed.  Denise  8)
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus and the rest
Post by: Ashtonian54 on September 17, 2009, 11:04 PM
No 1
No-2
No-3
No-4
No-5
No-6 Glossop
No-7 Crowhill
No-8
No-9
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus and the rest
Post by: Kiwi on September 17, 2009, 11:23 PM
OK, I'll play  ;)
No 1
No-2
No-3
No-4
No-5  Ashton to Droylsden (Butchers Arms)
No-6  Manchester (Lower Mosely St IIRC) - Glossop Limited Stop
No-7  Crowhill to Ashton, Hurst Cross and Hazelhurst
No-8
No-9
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: pamela on September 18, 2009, 01:08 AM
No 9 was Ashton to Oldham ..No 8 was Stalybridge to Oldham , going down Lees Rd , very convenient for me , as it stopped outside St Christophers .I loved the No5 it went from Smallshaw at the top of our road , down Smallshaw lane ,   then through Ashton , down Haymarket Lane , through really nice country side to Droylsden . My brother and I would sit upstairs at the front , great fun ...if I,m wrong tell me cos my memory,s not that great these days !!!
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: Kiwi on September 18, 2009, 02:01 AM
Nothing wrong with your memory Pam, it was originally a single decker but when they put the double  deckers on it got mildly exciting (for a kid) going round the tight bends at Littlemoss and the top of Daisy Nook and narrowly missing all the houses  :)
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: herby on September 18, 2009, 06:28 AM
Hi
            Wasn't there a single decker trolley bus used to go up to Waterloo I think that was the one my Dad cxalled it "the Flying Pig"   herby
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: greeny on September 18, 2009, 10:49 AM
no 1 smallshaw circular  no 3 hurst circular no4 mossley dont know no 2  :D
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: Martin on September 18, 2009, 11:11 AM
List of routes from 1969, with what happened to them:

 1  Smallshaw Circular, Ashton - Broadoak - Hurst Cross - Mossley Road - Ashton  (now 331)
 1  Ashton - Dukinfield - Audenshaw (SHMD)   (now part of 335)
 2  Ashton - Lords Field - Vicarage Road - Gambrel Bank  (became part of 332, now part of 395/6)
 3  Hurst Circular, Ashton - Mossley Road - Hurst Cross - Broadoak - Ashton  (now 333)
 4  Ashton - Waterloo - Park Bridge  (no longer a route)
 5  Oakfold - Smallshaw Lane - Ashton - Taunton Road - Newmarket Road - Droylsden (Butchers Arms)  (Oakfold - Ashton now part of 393, Ashton - Droylsden now part of 168/169)
 6  Manchester (Lwr Mosley St) - Droylsden - Ashton - Stalybridge - Glossop (Limited Stop) (now 236/237)
 7  Crowhill - Ashton - Hurst Cross - Hazelhurst (became 337, then A1. now Crowhill - Ashton 337, Ashton - Hazelhurst 38/39)
 8  Oldham - Hurst Cross - Cockbrook - Stalybridge  (now 408 from Shaw, detourng via St Albans Ave, Broadoak Rd)
 9  Ashton - Waterloo - Hathershaw - Oldham - Rochdale  (now 409)
10/10A Ashton - Dukinfield (SHMD)  (became 340/241, now 41)
11  Brushes - Copley - Stalybridge - Park Road - Ashton - Crescent Road - Lodge Lane - Newton (SHMD) (Now parts of 348 and 346)
11A   Ashton - Dukinfield (SHMD)  (no longer a route)
14  Ashton - Mossley Road - Top Mossley (SHMD)  (now part of 350)
30/31  Ashton - Dukinfield - Hyde - Stockport - Edgeley  (now 330)
127/128  Ashton - Guide Bridge - Denton - Haughton Green  (now 347)
153  Manchester (Stevenson Sq) - Ashton - Stalybridge - Carrbrook (Limited Stop)  (no longer a route)
154  Ashton - Heyrod - Bottom Mossley - Greenfield - Uppermill (SHMD/North Western) (now part of 353/354)
154A  Ashton - Heyrod - Bottom Mossley - Micklehurst (SHMD)  (now part of 350)
216  Manchester (Stevenson Sq) - Droylsden - Ashton - Stalybridge (now 216 Picc - Ashton)
218  Manchester (Piccadilly) - Openshaw - Ashton - Stalybridge  (now part of 217/218)
219  Manchester (Piccadilly) - Openshaw - Guide Bridge - Ashton  (same)
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: greeny on September 18, 2009, 11:25 AM
hi martin i sure the no 4 use to be the mossley bus it use to go from fletcher street ashton i know there was a shmd that went to mossley from st michaels square that was before there was a ashton bus station  :)
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: Martin on September 18, 2009, 01:53 PM
Sorry, Greeny - my information is correct and comes from the book "A History of Public Transport in Ashton under Lyne".

I have also just checked it with a 1971 SELNEC timetable which I somehow still have, and the route numbers are still the same.

The list was a list of bus routes in Ashton, and the bus from Ashton to Top Mossley was the 14 in 1969 and 1971. There was a number 4 to Top Mossley, but it was an SHMD bus from Hyde, via Dukinfield, Stalybridge and Micklehurst (now the 343 route), not coming into Ashton at all, so not included in the list.

The Ashton No 4 to Park Bridge only ran 4 times a day, but 6 times on Saturday!
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: Denise on September 18, 2009, 02:11 PM
Greeny - I used to catch the Mossley bus on Fletcher St in the late 50's/early 60's to Darnton Rd but can't remember the bus number. Here's the Hurst Circular No3 on Fletcher St in the 50's.

http://www.tameside.gov.uk/history/archive.php3
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: Bardsleycrow on September 19, 2009, 09:40 AM
I remember when there was no bus to Park Bridge
Kevin
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: greeny on September 19, 2009, 12:10 PM
hi there were two bus shelters on fletcher street were the mossley bus and hurst bus went from , i remember the no 7 use to be near the town hall where the council offices door way was , the nearest thing to a bus station we had in the 50s was the one on wellington road opposite the old fire station ,it even had a waiting room , i remember waiting there with a mate of mine his cousin was coming from doncaster on a north western that also stopped there , we waited ages because it was a bit foggy it also had a big clock on it which you could see comming down penny meadow  :D
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: Denise on September 19, 2009, 04:46 PM
Hi Bill,  Thanks for the info, most useful, especially on Archives site. I did realise it hadn't worked but thought I'd leave well alone. Knew one of you clever gents would come to the rescue!! I'll keep trying. Cheers, Denise.  ;)
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: lydia on September 19, 2009, 09:44 PM
hi martin as i am pretty new to this forum i just wanted to know about your knowledge and interest in transport. my dad was an ambulanceman before becoming manager at hospital and always loved york transport museum. his family were all working on the railways and just wondered about your personal interest.
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: Martin on September 19, 2009, 10:22 PM
My interest exceeds my knowledge, I'm afraid.

That'd why I had to refer to books, whereas some people might have remembered Ashton's bus routes of 40 years ago without needing to look them up!
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: greeny on November 15, 2009, 12:02 PM
how our transport as changed http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apx9kk-yLXs&feature=related    :D
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: Fudge on November 15, 2009, 03:19 PM
That was a really interesting video were are people getting them from Fudge
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: Martin on November 15, 2009, 04:09 PM
From YouTube?  :)

That last video is the one that is shown at Portland Basin. It would appear to have been added to YouTube by the people who made the film.

Some of the others have been compiled by people using images they have found online which include some from Tameside Archive. Some of the images may not have permission to be used in that way.
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: jaywit on November 16, 2009, 03:39 PM
From YouTube?  :)

That last video is the one that is shown at Portland Basin. It would appear to have been added to YouTube by the people who made the film.

Some of the others have been compiled by people using images they have found online which include some from Tameside Archive. Some of the images may not have permission to be used in that way.
I seem to think someone will have to complain before the censor will get the scissors out.
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: Westy on September 22, 2015, 11:46 AM
Wow that's amazing and brought back so many memories of getting the 337 at the bus stop on knowledge avenue and taking it over the bridge at the moss down Katherine street and through to the station do go swimming in the '70's.
Thanks.
Paula
Title: Re: Old No 7 Crowhill bus
Post by: PJackson on September 23, 2015, 07:02 PM
11  Brushes - Copley - Stalybridge - Park Road - Ashton - Crescent Road - Lodge Lane - Newton (SHMD) (Now parts of 348 and 346)
[snip]
153  Manchester (Stevenson Sq) - Ashton - Stalybridge - Carrbrook (Limited Stop)  (no longer a route)

The 348 runs Ashton - Stalybridge - Copley - Millbrook - Carrbrook so seems to cover much of the 153 route. I get the tram to continue into Manchester.

http://www.tfgm.com/journey_planning/RouteMaps/348.pdf