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General Category => Talking about Ashton => Topic started by: Vanessa on February 07, 2017, 11:44 PM

Title: New building coming along nicely
Post by: Vanessa on February 07, 2017, 11:44 PM
Floors going in now
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=749nSUpMAgI#
Title: Re: New building coming along nicely
Post by: Kiwi on February 08, 2017, 03:44 AM
Amazing how the pre-industrial age managed to build beautiful buildings that will outlast most of what us clever clogs can do, have always been  gobsmacked at what hard graft and clever application can achieve.
Medieval masons had simple hand tools, maths and trigonometry. No computers, power tools, risk assessments or method statements.
Look what they did and then look at the unholy, over budget, cock ups we build now. Progress eh!.

As a grumpy old fart was heard to remark "built so you don't have to do it twice in one lifetime".
Title: Re: New building coming along nicely
Post by: jaywit on February 08, 2017, 03:38 PM
It's all about the MunEEE.
The local esablishment couldn't organise a piss up in a brewery.
How many local Build, Demolish cycles have happened since my awakening (not religiously ,thank god) (no pun intended)in 1977.
Methinks it is a good job The local establishment are in Ashton, and not in places of any historical importance, York springs to mind.The Minster being demolished to build a Fire and Police station.
The old mills,now gone,(Cedar etc,)were built with pride,private money and could have lasted hundreds of years and put to good use with a little thought and imagination,
that appears sadly lacking with the present Carno's (as in Fred) Troupe.

Flanders & Swan. It all makes work for the working man to do.

just a thought
Title: Re: New building coming along nicely
Post by: Vanessa on February 09, 2017, 07:26 PM
The old buildings were built by skilled workers who earned next to nothing, with no health and safety and didn't live long enough to take pride in what they had done for rich people.
Title: Re: New building coming along nicely
Post by: herby on March 01, 2017, 11:52 AM
Hi
             I /ll  bet the houses besides the Ashton football ground  on Lees road are still standing I started work for Wilf Plant as an apprentice brick layer in 1946 and I still remember the bloody snow and how cold it was .Brick layers don't work with anything only trowels hammers chisels  lines a spirit level. and a sense of humor     herby
Title: Re: New building coming along nicely
Post by: Albert on March 01, 2017, 08:39 PM
Hi herby I started work same time and it was a bad winter,later when we were married we wanted one on Lees road but couldnt get a loan on one from the CO OP  they had run out of money .not much better now a days.
Title: Re: New building coming along nicely
Post by: jaywit on March 02, 2017, 02:52 PM
I seem to remember groovin g (GG) lived in one of those.
some were very big to usual houses.
Title: Re: New building coming along nicely
Post by: Albert on March 02, 2017, 09:10 PM
Hi jaywit GG lived in the houses down the steps coming back to Hurst Cross they were built before the war and were council houses,
like ours on Leech ave behind the Cake a pie mill
Title: Re: New building coming along nicely
Post by: daftjack on March 05, 2017, 07:57 AM
Hi All, I lived at 244 kings road, directly opposite the football club, in the '50's.

I also had friends who lived on Surry street next to the ground. David and John Waugh, Norman Andrews,to name one or two. I believe Billy Butterworth also lived on Surrey street, as did Mr and Mrs Barker. are those house on Surrey Street still there? Or are they all gone?


Just a thought.........

Daftjack.  8) 8) 8)

Title: Re: New building coming along nicely
Post by: jaywit on March 07, 2017, 03:32 PM
Just on GE. The houses on Surrey st at the end (Rowley St?)are still there. as of 2016 or so GE says.
244 is also there.These houses will last for years.Accrington brick 1/4 "mortar joints probably built late 1800's .We were on Nook Lane built 1897!




Title: Re: New building coming along nicely
Post by: Butty on March 07, 2017, 07:19 PM
The houses at the end of Surrey Street are actually Craven Street.

All my Butterworth ancestors lived there.

regards
Title: Re: New building coming along nicely
Post by: jaywit on March 07, 2017, 07:34 PM
There is always 2 ends to a piece of string, Craven  is the other end????
Title: Re: New building coming along nicely
Post by: Butty on March 08, 2017, 10:59 AM
Yes, Surrey Street at the Rowley St side and Craven Street behind the Royal Oak.
The Brewery owned the houses.

regards
Title: Re: New building coming along nicely
Post by: LCGI on April 07, 2017, 05:28 PM
Floors going in now
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=749nSUpMAgI#
Many thanks Vanessa for your YouTube contributions .... they really help this old sod appreciate how the place has changed - since I left in early 1973.  Its amazing how the Pubs (Prince of Orange0 always seem to survive - eh?

- Larry
Title: Re: New building coming along nicely
Post by: Too shy on April 09, 2017, 08:42 PM
I think you must have gained the wrong impression, Larry. So many pubs have closed in our local town centres since the sixties and seventies that we have probably lost at least a quarter of the watering holes that you might remember. If you name a few pubs, I'll see if they are still active.
Title: Re: New building coming along nicely
Post by: Fudge on April 10, 2017, 09:57 AM
I bet it is more than a Quarter as there as been quite a few pulled down as well Fudge
Title: Re: New building coming along nicely
Post by: LCGI on April 10, 2017, 06:50 PM
I think you must have gained the wrong impression, Larry. So many pubs have closed in our local town centres since the sixties and seventies that we have probably lost at least a quarter of the watering holes that you might remember. If you name a few pubs, I'll see if they are still active.
Here are a couple I used to frequent (late 60's)
Angel, Swan, Whitehart, Spread Eagle and the one opposite Ashton Baths ??......
We'd often do the pub crawl (friday night) Starting at the Warrington (Cockbrook) down to the Wine Lodge (Stamford St.) - there were about 15 pubs - so we could only have a gill in each pub.  LOL
Title: Re: New building coming along nicely
Post by: Too shy on April 10, 2017, 11:38 PM
Here's my reply to your pub enquiry, Larry.

1. Angel Inn (1, Old Street - adjacent to St Michael's Square)   To the best of my recollection, the pub is still open. I think they changed the name, a year or two back, to something like "Chaplins" in an attempt make it a "theme" pub. The original blue tiling has been left on the outside walls and signage now describes it as the "Angel Hotel", complete with the advertising for "Shaw's Ales."

2. Apparently, we have had two Swans. The first one was at 91, Stamford Street (near where Bedford Street entered Lees Square) but the name was transferred to the Travellers Call at 74, Stamford Street (at Cockbrook) in about 1870. I assume this is the one you are asking about. It is still standing and seems to be functioning alright from outside appearances. It has been (and probably still is) a John Smiths Brewery pub.

3. The Spread Eagle (262, Stamford Street) was situated up against the traffic lights at the busy corner of Stamford Street and Cavendish Street. In the late Sixties, that part of Stamford Street became somewhat desolate as properties were cleared out in readiness of road changes which largely "killed off" that part of the town. To their credit, the Spread Eagle held on a little longer, largely because it became something of a watering hole and meeting spot for the motorbiking fraternity. It was a Chesters Brewery pub, with that (non official) proud boast, "Fighting Ales." It was still functioning in the late Eighties but probably was demolished soon after that.

4. The pub opposite the old baths was probably the Friendship (188, Old Street and adjacent to Henry Square). It became a Robinsons Brewery pub, but before that it had been the home of Schofields Brewery and I believe that the wording to that effect can still be seen in the brickwork round the back. It was a grand old building and was always well worth a visit. The interior was like stepping back in time with all the old interior wall tiling and brasswork. The landlady complained to me on one occasion that the brewery wanted her to be "revamped" into a much more modern pub. To my knowledge, she hung out against it. Sadly, in the end, it ceased to function as a pub and for many years stood idle and boarded up as that part of Ashton continued its decline. Following a spirited attempt to "reinvent" that part of the town, the building seems to have been refurbished and there appear to be plans to convert it to commercial use.

5. The Warrington Arms (Cockbrook) still seems to be going strong. I've never once set foot in this pub but I must have driven past the front door several hundred times!

6. Yates Wine Lodge (Stamford Street and in Old Square) seemed to do good trade until not many years back. It became some sort of theme pub or bar which aimed at the younger and noisier clientele and certainly nothing like the older, more traditional working men of years gone by. I only went in a couple of times but the beer was good as was the Australian white wine ("plonk") that you were obliged to drink alongside your pint. In recent years it appeared to be semi gutted following a fire. The last I was aware of, it was occupied by a flourishing pet shop concern.

Hope this has been useful.

PS Mine's a pint!
Title: Re: New building coming along nicely
Post by: LCGI on April 11, 2017, 04:30 PM
Thanks - Too shy... what valuable bits of info. and good reminders of the bygone days.

Yes, it was the Friendship (Henry Square) the Licensee's name was 'Badger' as I used to go to school with the son 'Brian Badger' at Stamford Boys (Mossley Rd)

Have a great week.....

- Larry